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visit cities around kyoto from kyoto 2014/10/11 12:16
Is this route possible? We will staying in Kyoto between dec/jan15.

we will visit cities around Kyoto from Kyoto. Nara, Kobe, Himeji, Osaka.

by kwandi  

Re: visit cities around kyoto from kyoto 2014/10/11 15:43
of course, they are all accessible directly from Kyoto by train.
by pas7680 (guest) rate this post as useful

Re: visit cities around kyoto from kyoto 2014/10/11 15:52
i dont know why i cant type a full question.. and i continue the question.

Is this route possible?
We will staying in Kyoto around old and new 2015. Because of the luggage, we decide to stay only in Kyoto. And will visit Osaka and city around Kyoto from Kyoto.


Our plan :
8am (early morning ) by JR Pass go to Himeji to see biggest castle in Japan : HIMEJI CASTLE.

And then we will go to KOBE city, only to ride the ROPEWAY, I read that rope way near by Shin-Kobe Station.

And then we will go to NARA, only visit beautiful TODAIJI TEMPLE.
And at 4pm or 5pm go to Osaka to enjoy the night at MINAMI/NAMBA.

And before 9pm we will back to our hotel in Kyoto.
We will use JR Pass, avoid Taxi and busses. As I never get it, busses route.
by kwandi rate this post as useful

Re: visit cities around kyoto from kyoto 2014/10/12 00:01
Do not get the nationwide JR pass, that would be a waste of money.
by Asahana (guest) rate this post as useful

Re: visit cities around kyoto from kyoto 2014/10/12 01:38
If you add up all the trips you will be taking, using the Shinkansen, then include the Haruka Express from and back to the airport, a 7-day JR Pass will just about equal all the regular tickets. I've included 2 trips from Kyoto to Osaka. You can also use the pass on the JR San-in line in Kyoto. PLUS, it is very convenient to not have to buy tickets every single time you get on a train.
I highly recommend a 7-day JR Pass.
by Dick H rate this post as useful

Re: visit cities around kyoto from kyoto 2014/10/12 03:52
Sorry but I disagree.

A 7 days JR pass costs 29110 yen, a round-trip via Shinkansen to Himeji costs around 10000 yen, a one way trip with Haruka express apparently around 3400, a Shinkansen (Nozomi) roundtrip to Kobe around 8000 yen and I doubt that OP would make up the difference by going to Osaka and Nara.

I would think about getting the Haruku + Icoca package and/or the JR Kansai Wide Pass. You could use the Icoca to get to Namba and see some sights in Kyoto
by Asahana (guest) rate this post as useful

Re: visit cities around kyoto from kyoto 2014/10/12 06:04
It's difficult to say at this point whether the JR Pass is worth it or not; the original poster has only disclosed what seems to be a single day's itinerary. If that's the extent of his travel than it is clearly not worth it, but if he plans to go elsewhere on other days then it might be.
by .. (guest) rate this post as useful

Re: visit cities around kyoto from kyoto 2014/10/12 06:35
I did miss that this is supposed to be a single day itinerary which is ambitious to say at least, if not impossible.
by Asahana (guest) rate this post as useful

Re: visit cities around kyoto from kyoto 2014/10/12 07:57
Last year I used Kyoto as my main base while in The Kansai region and I visited Nara & Osaka.

Next year when I'm back in Kyoto I will be using it as my base again for visiting Osaka, Kobe and other locations.

So yes I recommend using Kyoto as your base.

by Kari Haruka rate this post as useful

Re: visit cities around kyoto from kyoto 2014/10/12 07:58
Wait this is 1 day? It would be impossible to visit Himeji, Kobe, Osaka and Nara in 1 day.
by Kari Haruka rate this post as useful

Re: visit cities around kyoto from kyoto 2014/10/12 08:52
And at 4pm or 5pm go to Osaka to enjoy the night at MINAMI/NAMBA.

I searched on Hyperdia and the followings are the results.

Kyoto Himeji 57 min 5070 yen
http://goo.gl/XsxJqg
Himeji Shin-Kobe 24 min 3020 yen
http://goo.gl/vZCYgD
Shin-Kobe Nara 83 min 3990 yen
http://goo.gl/7Ni6iY
Nara Osaka 59 min 800 yen
http://goo.gl/16NPkA
Osaka Kyoto 29 min 560 yen
http://goo.gl/UXuVsU
Total 252 min 13440 yen. JRP is quite valuable!

Himeji castle opens at 9, so you can not start earlier. I allocated each place 2 hours which might be rush, but doable.

As you see, you will arrive Osaka at 1747.

And before 9pm we will back to our hotel in Kyoto.

If you want to go to Namba, you might better take Osaka subway Midosuji line.

Nara Namba (subway)
48 min 710 yen (you must pay 240 yen for subway)
http://goo.gl/kh539R
You will arrive Namba at 1736.

Namba Kyoto
45 min 800 yen (you must pay 240 yen for subway)
http://goo.gl/BjCQ9Q

If you want to be in Kyoto at 9, your Namba stay will be about 100 min.
by frog1954 rate this post as useful

Re: visit cities around kyoto from kyoto 2014/10/12 16:54
@pas7680 Thank you..

@Asahana (guest) We are travelling around Tokyo, Kawaguchiko, and Kyoto. For 7days. So we need it. Hahahahaha.. We will eliminate 2 cities, so only visit 2 cities.. Too greedy for 4 cities in one hitc hahahaha.. I watched the Amazing Race TV Show too much..

@Dick H Yes, @Guest
We will buy it. Thanks.

@Kari Haruka : Thanks for convinced Kyoto as our base.
@frog1954 : Thank you so much for detail trains, So I could print it for the visiting day.


Arigato (^^)
by kwandi rate this post as useful

Re: visit cities around kyoto from kyoto 2014/10/12 18:15
kwandi,

The timetable I linked is as of Nov 12th. You should change the date and search again when you decide the exact date. I think there may be not so big changes, but you should confirm.

Note that it takes by foot about 30 min from JR Nara station to Todaiji. You might better take a taxi or bus.

Enjoy your trip!
by frog1954 rate this post as useful

Re: visit cities around kyoto from kyoto 2014/10/12 19:56
there will be a Kansai 1 day pass(fuyu no Kansai 1 day pass). it costs probably 3600 yen.
it does not cover Shinkansen. but you can use Shin-Kaisoku and Kaisoku.
the web below is the last years announcement.( this year's information is not announced yet.)
https://www.westjr.co.jp/press/article/items/131205_00_winter.pdf
by ken (guest) rate this post as useful

Re: visit cities around kyoto from kyoto 2014/10/14 12:26
@frog1954 and @ken(guest)
yes, thank you so much..

I get it now.
by kwandi (guest) rate this post as useful

Re: visit cities around kyoto from kyoto 2014/10/14 13:31
You will probably need to rely on Bus in Kyoto, in fact, I feel they are better options compare to others in Kyoto. Though, you could always rent a bicycle to explore the town.

For Himeji, do check when is the date of completion for the renovation, I believe it will be in March/April 2015. http://www.japan-guide.com/e/e3501.html

So do not be disappointed if you are unable to enter the interior or scaffolding blocking the views etc. Probably need someone with most recent trip to Himeji on this, personally I would recommend not to make this trip this time, leave it for another time if you have plan to return to Japan.

by vinces7 rate this post as useful

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