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Korube-Alpine 15th April 2017/3/18 00:41
Hello,
I have purchased 2 tickets for the opening day for 11:20.
I wonder if the time is strict, or if I will be able to come at an earlier hour ( 07:00 ) ? Is it possible ?

Also regarding transportation - should I book anymore tickets in advance ( staying in Toyama on the 14th ) ?

Thanks,
by seth (guest)  

Re: Korube-Alpine 15th April 2017/3/28 21:37
They estimate class A crowds on 15th Apr; more than 6k visitors, a waiting time per ride longer than 1.5 hours.
http://www.alpen-route.com/information/calendar/

All the reservation tickets from 07:00 to 11:40 are already full on that day.
https://tateyama-kurobe.alpen-route.com/ticket/jp/resv15.html?departur...

So, I do not expect such an early entry with the reservation ticket could be possible.

Just try to line up for an ordinary ticket as early as possible. They would start to sell such tickets 40-minute before the first cable car at Tateyama station if it were reasonable.
http://www.alpen-route.com/en/2017%E3%80%80about-web-ticket-reservatio...
http://www.alpen-route.com/access_new/fare/person/ticket.html

To arrive at Tateyama before the starting time of 6:20 on the 15th, you should ride the 5:27 train at Dentetsu-Tateyama station. At this station, they would also sell some tickets of such kind. On the 14th, ask the information for that, though you might have to show up there around 5 AM or so.
http://www.chitetsu.co.jp/english/img/railways/railways-transfers_04.g...
http://www.chitetsu.co.jp/english/img/railways/railways-transfers_02.g...
http://www.chitetsu.co.jp/english/railways/

Another way could be starting from Ogizawa, Nagano side. The reservations are still not full even for 15th Apr.
https://tateyama-kurobe.alpen-route.com/ticket/jp/resv15.html?departur...
by Luisjp rate this post as useful

Re: Korube-Alpine 15th April 2017/3/28 21:54
Apr 15

6:19 Toyama - (Kagayaki 500) - 7:05 Nagano
6:37 Toyama - (Hakutaka 552) - 7:40 Nagano
7:19 Toyama - (Kagayaki 502) - 8:05 Nagano

Nagano 8:15 - (Alpico bus) - 10:00 Ogizawa 10:30 -

https://www.alpico.co.jp/access/express/nagano_omachi/
http://www.alpen-route.com/en/timetable/timetable_nagano.html
by Luisjp rate this post as useful

Re: Korube-Alpine 15th April 2017/3/28 23:03
Hi this might be a stupid question but I plan on going from Ogizawa to Tateyama. I took a look at the ticket reservation website and it seems like only the Tateyama Cable Car portion of the route can be reserved in advance. Since I will not be reaching the cable car until the afternoon it seems like there is nothing for me to reserve. Am I understanding the website correctly? Are the reservation times only for the Tateyama Cable car, even from the Ogizawa direction?

https://tateyama-kurobe.alpen-route.com/ticket/jp/resv15.html?departur...

Thanks for your help!
by matsumoto (guest) rate this post as useful

Re: Korube-Alpine 15th April 2017/3/29 01:42
Thanks for the help,
I already booked for the 16th for 8:00AM . I had to change my plans a bit but I made it work.
1.5 hours seems a lot time to wait 8(
by seth (guest) rate this post as useful

Re: Korube-Alpine 15th April 2017/3/29 17:29
matsumoto,

It seems you should be able to reserve the Kanden Tunnel Trolley Bus from Ogizawa to Kurobe Dam. The listed departure times on the reservation site completely match to those for Kanden Tunnel Trolley Bus, but not for Tateyama Cable Car.

https://tateyama-kurobe.alpen-route.com/ticket/jp/resv15.html?departur...
http://www.alpen-route.com/en/timetable/timetable_nagano.html
by Luisjp rate this post as useful

Re: Korube-Alpine 15th April 2017/3/31 18:41
Hi,
i'm finding hard to find transportation between kanawaze to Tateyama for a boarding time of 8:00 ( 16/4).
the only thing I found was the
IR Ishikawa Railway for TOYAMA ( 05:16) and then from DENTETSUTOYAMA to arrive at 07:23.

Will it be advisable to rent a car and do the trip by myself (or via a Taxi service if it's available) ?
thanks
by seth (guest) rate this post as useful

Re: Korube-Alpine 15th April 2017/4/2 10:57
It seems you need to exchange the tickets reserved on the net to real ones at least 15 minutes before the departure time, namely 7:45 in this case.
http://www.alpen-route.com/access_new/fare/ticket.html

It requires you to be seated on the train to Tateyama arriving at 7:23. The last limit for it is 06:10 at Toyama station.
https://world.jorudan.co.jp/mln/en/?p=0&from=Toyama&to=Tateyama%28Toya...
But, you could not reach Toyama before 06:11 by the first train from Kanazawa.
https://world.jorudan.co.jp/mln/en/?p=0&from=Kanazawa&to=Toyama&date=0...
It is planned to do so quite likely by thinking of commuting passangers with thier passes in hands. But the site estimates ten mintues from JR Toyama to Dentetsu-Toyama maybe taking account of travellers who need to purchase the ticket there. Ainokaze line is at the opposite side of Toyama Dentetsu over the JR Shinkansen. Note Jorudan is the best routefinder in Japan. Their estimates should be quite accurate. So, I do not recommend to do this somewhat risky transfer. But if you believe you could do it all within nine minutes, then just try it.

The highway bus does not get to Toyama before 7:15.
http://www.chitetsu.co.jp/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/9f0688d9c23829687...

For a rent-a-car, you need to check it out the day before. The best price for 1 night 2 days would be 5600 yen.
http://www.tabirai.net/car/ishikawa/search/rentacar.aspx?SYF=20170415&...
But you have to pay for gas and the highway fee up to 1770 yen.
http://dc.c-nexco.co.jp/dc/DriveCompassResult.html?&s_rd_cd=1080&e_rd_...
Google Maps suggests the duration of up to 1:40. You need to start before 6:00.

This site for taxi estimate 1:50. The cost would be up to 37340 yen, but it is just for one way!
http://www.taxisite.com/far/anytoanyret.aspx?night=0&hway=0

If I were you, I would move to Toyama the day before and take a dinner there. Toyama is well known to its delicious food by Toyama bay, sush as this:
http://www.toyamawan-sushi.jp/english/types/
by Luisjp rate this post as useful

Re: Korube-Alpine 15th April 2017/4/3 04:24
Wow, thank you very much for your thoughtful response, it really helped!
I guess staying in toyama is the best option.

I found a route that gets me to Tateyama at 8:25, do you know if there will be a problem with boarding the 9:00 ?

Again, thank you very much !
by seth (guest) rate this post as useful

Re: Korube-Alpine 15th April 2017/4/3 11:32
They say
Crowd Level A From 9:00 to 10:30
Crowd Level B From 8:00 to 09:00
Crowd Level C The rest
at both Tateyama and Ogizawa stations.
http://www.alpen-route.com/information/calendar/

So you need to find the right lane for your reservation ticket for the 9:00, as soon as you get off the 8:25 train to Tateyama. If you failed to exchange your ticket before 8:45, you would have to wait for the ordinary tickets for the day, up to 1.5 hours. Or, they could refuse you to enter the Route. They have already issued an emergency note that indicates a possible early shutdown of the ticketing counter itself between Apr 15 - Apr 25.
http://www.alpen-route.com/_wp/emergency/2276
by Luisjp rate this post as useful

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