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Kansai Area Pass vs Kansai One Pass 2017/4/3 17:19
Hi All,

Wanting to know more the different between Kansai Area Pass vs Kansai One Pass. Is it covering:
Osaka to Kyoto to Osaka trip
Osaka to Kobe to Osaka trip
Bus & Train in Osaka, Kyoto, Kobe

Thanks in advance.
by Chunlee Lim  

Re: Kansai Area Pass vs Kansai One Pass 2017/4/3 19:34
Just exploring this website, interested to visit Himeji also.
Same questions, is it include Himeji coverage ?
by Chunlee Lim rate this post as useful

Re: Kansai Area Pass vs Kansai One Pass 2017/4/3 21:33
JR Kansai Area Pass is valid only on JR trains excluding most of limited express and Shinkansen. You can do unlimited rides during the validity period though you can not use non-JR trains/buses. On the other hand Kansai One Pass is just an IC card, with no discount. Actually it is almost the same as ICOCA issued by JR west. You can get almost all types of trains/buses operated by JR and non-JR companies, but your fare is subtracted each time. For more detail see their own pages.
by frog1954 rate this post as useful

Re: Kansai Area Pass vs Kansai One Pass 2017/4/4 00:14
Presumably "Kansai Area Pass" in your question refers to the JR-West (1-day to 4-day) Kansai Area Pass(es).
http://www.japan-guide.com/e/e2361_03.html
Whether this pass pays off for your listed trips depends on sites which you visit (#) and the location of your starting point in Osaka City, also on your timeline.

The Kansai One Pass is an IC transportation card, which is basically an ICOCA card.
http://www.japan-guide.com/e/e2357_kansai.html

The names which both include the word "pass" may cause you to think that they resemble each other, but there are some fundamental differences.
(1) Whether you travel at a flat cost during a specific time period
(2) Coverage of lines and fees
(3) Whether a child-rate version exists
(4) Whether non-transportation benefits are given


(1) Whether you travel at a flat cost during a specific time period

The JR-West Kansai Area Pass is a transportation pass which allows its holder to travel freely at a flat cost, inside a certain designated usage area and during a specific time period.

The Kansai One Pass is not a transportation pass in that sense.
When you travel with a Kansai One Pass, you pay railroad or bus fares as you go, and there is no time period set for you to use it.

(2) Coverage of lines and fees

The Kansai One Pass can be used, just like a normal ICOCA Card, widely on JR and non-JR railroad and bus lines inside its usage area.

The JR-West Kansai Area Pass can be used on lines of JR West; it cannot be used on non-JR railroad lines or lines operated by JR Central.
e.g.
To travel in Osaka City, in Kyoto City and between them,
a JR-West Kansai Area Pass
can be used on the JR Kyoto Line and the Osaka Loop Line, which are operated by JR West,
but cannot be used on lines of Keihan, Hankyu or Kintetsu, neither on the Tokaido Shinkansen, which is operated by JR Central.

The Kansai One Pass does not cover any surcharge for a faster or higher-grade train service.
The JR-West Kansai Area Pass, though only when you don't reserve seats, covers JR surcharges for the Kansai-airport Limited Express Haruka.

(3) Whether a child-rate version exists

While the child-rate JR-West Kansai Area Passes and the Child ICOCA Card are available, there is no child-rate version of the Kansai One Pass.

(4) Whether non-transportation benefits are given

The Kansai One Pass can bring its holder benefits such as a discount on admission fees at tourist spots in the Kansai Region.
There is no similar user benefits attached to the JR-West Kansai Area Pass.


#:
Since the renewal of JR West Passes scheduled on 10 April 2017, the JR-West Kansai Area Pass will begin to cover West JR Bus lines inside the usage area, newly allowing its holder to travel by the Takao-Keihoku bus line connecting Kyoto Station and Shuzan.
(Ryoanji Temple, Ninnaji Temple and Kozanji Temple are along this bus line, for example.
To visit major tourist sites in Kyoto City and Kobe City, generally non-JR lines are more useful, but there are some spots which are accessible better by JR.

by omotenashi rate this post as useful

Re: Kansai Area Pass vs Kansai One Pass 2017/4/4 10:52
Thanks for your prompt response all.

So from my understanding, as long as I am using JR Line there will be no issue for us if we are going to travel from:
Day 1. Osaka to Kyoto and go back Osaka using JR Line
Day 1. Travel in Kyoto using JR Line
Day 2. Osaka to Himeji to Kobe and go back to Osaka using JR Line
Day 2. Travel in Kobe using JR Line
Doesn't it ?
by Chunlee Lim rate this post as useful

Re: Kansai Area Pass vs Kansai One Pass 2017/4/4 18:29
I assume you are thinking of JR West Kansai Area Pass 2day, 4300 yen.

Day 1 Osaka to Kyoto by JR 560 yen. Kyoto to Saga-Arashiyama 240 yen. Osaka to Saga-Arashiyama 970 yen. Saga-Arashiyama to Inari (close to Fushimi-Inari) 240 yen. Inari to Kyoto 140 yen. Due to JRfs special fare around Kansai area (to compete against non-JR companies), it is cheaper to buy the ticket separately.

Then the total fare should be 560+240+240+140+560=1740 yen.

Day 2 Osaka to Himeji 1490 yen. Himeji to Sannomiya (Kobefs mainstation) 970 yen. Sannomiya to Osaka 410 yen. Also in this case it is cheaper to split at Sannomiya, but it is not practical since the special rapid go directly to Himeji.

Total fare =@2870 yen.

So, I think it is better to use IC card (such as Icoca or Kansai One Pass) on day 1 and buy Kansai Area pass 1 day (2200 yen) for day 2.

JR gwithinh Kobe seems to be useless unless you stop at Sumakaihinkoen to visit the aquarium.
by frog1954 rate this post as useful

Re: Kansai Area Pass vs Kansai One Pass 2017/4/4 21:06
Ic... I understand what you are explaining on this. I need to remove assumption in "one card to rule them all" :)

Thanks in advance!
by Chunlee Lim rate this post as useful

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