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Explanation of charges on Hyperdia 2009/6/19
Need a quick clarification. A Hyperdia search for trains from Odawara to Kyoto lists base fare prices and then charges in a separate column. Under charges, I'm seeing the words reserved seat and under that, a fee of 4000+ yen. I thought seat reservation fees were typically 300-500 yen. Can someone shed some light on this? I'm trying to figure out whether or not I should get a JR Pass, but can't do so until I can decipher total train costs. Thanks!
by Jazzabela  

reservation fee 2009/6/19
The fee hyperdia lists for reserved seats includes not only the seat reservation fee, but all supplemental fees as well. In this case it includes the Ltd. Express fee as you will be using the Shinkansen.
by yllwsmrf rate this post as useful

Confused on fare & charge column 2009/8/12
Hello, I am travelling from Tokyo to Shinosaka and I selected "Unreserved seat".

I don't understand the fare and charge column. So which amount do I have to pay?

Do you suggest that I buy the Shinkansen ticket in advance or on the day itself? I don't want to pay for reservation surcharge so please advise.

by Goblin (guest) rate this post as useful

supplemental charge 2009/8/12
Hi Goblin,

As explained before, the fare on hyperdia is the cost of traveling that distance on JR rail lines. However, this is only the base fare--local trains will cost this much.

Since you are taking a shinkansen, they have supplemental express fee (you are paying extra for the convenience of using a faster train). This fee is the 'charge' you are seeing in Hyperdia. You must pay both the 'fare' and the 'charge' when using the shinkansen. Reserved seats only cost a few hundred yen extra. In hyperdia, if you compare the same search, but with reserved and unreserved seats, the 'fare' stays the same, and the 'charge' is slightly most expensive for the cost of the reservation.

As for purchasing tickets, you can generally do that on the day of travel, unless it is during a busy holiday period. Most times you will find space in the unreserved section, I found.

by mike (guest) rate this post as useful

Unreserved seating 2009/8/12
Well, the difference between reserved and unreserved seats appears to be more than a few hundred yen, if you take the nozomi shinkansen from Tokyo to Shin Osaka. It's more like a 1000-yen difference (13240 yen as opposed to 14250 yen), so I can see why you want to avoid getting a reserved seat ticket. If you are leaving from Tokyo Station (as opposed to Shinagawa) you can always get a seat in the unreserved car, unless it's a terribly busy travel day. 1000 yen is enough for a fairly nice lunch or something. (Also, I never knew this, but if you are not getting a reserved seat, then the nozomi costs the same as the hikari. And you are much more likely to get a window seat on the Mt. Fuji side of the train, if you're interested.)

Even with unreserved seating you do need a ticket, but it doesn't really make any difference when you buy it. If you think you will be in a hurry on the day you are traveling, then you might want to get it ahead of time so all you have to do is go to the platform and line up for the train.

by Uma (guest) rate this post as useful

4000+ ? 2009/8/12
did check mark in "excepts NOZOMI" ?
maybe back "Shin-Yokohama" first.

NOZOMI fastest but not stop "Odawara".
(Shin-Yokohama next Nagoya")
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/68/Shin...
(Yellow-Green line. Tokyo lower left)

Odawara to Kyoto "Hikari" only fast.

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