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About Japanese Folk Music Scales 2017/11/5 06:51
Hello My Japanese Dear Friends Here,

I'm one of the biggest lover of every thing about Japan especially the folk culture and music,,,

I want to ask you about this music in this YouTube video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAqazq4wEeg

Under which Japanese pentatonic scale can we classify it, please give me the name of this scale, because as I know there are types of Japanese folk music scales!

Thanks a lot and waiting for your valuable replies :)
by Mr. Mansour (guest)  

Re: About Japanese Folk Music Scales 2017/11/7 16:46
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Re: About Japanese Folk Music Scales 2017/11/8 14:02
This isn't a traditional Japanese folk mode, it's a normal European Aeolian mode with some notes removed to make it pentatonic. It's influenced by the miyako-bushi (which is sometimes called the "in" scale in English, although I hardly ever hear that term used in Japanese) but the way it's being used here is fundamentally European. If you're interested in learning more about miyako-bushi, it's used frequently in shamisen, koto, and shakuhachi music. In koto the most common use of it is called "hira-joshi."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiraj%C5%8Dshi_scale

Here is an example of how it would sound in traditional koto music. There's a different "tonic" than you would hear in similar European scales.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oGzwLqbe_c

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Re: About Japanese Folk Music Scales 2017/11/9 07:07
Thanks a lot my dear friends for your valuable replies :)

OK, Let me please share this video with you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vv7CO-nVFj8

It is about Japanese pentatonic scales, at the scale number 2 in the video ("Yo" Scale), This is the scale which I'm looking for!

Can you please give me some Japanese popular folk songs which considered under Yo scale?

Thanks a lot...
by Mr. Mansour (guest) rate this post as useful

Re: About Japanese Folk Music Scales 2017/11/9 09:57
While the video you shared does basically describe some traditional modes that were used in Japan, they are quite different from "scales" in European musical theory. Koizumi's tetrachord theory provides some insight into this. It's not perfect, but it's a better way to think about the construction of Japanese melodies than a direct equivalent of scales and church modes.

https://japanhistorymusic.weebly.com/japanese-music-theory.html

Here is an example of the "yo" scale you mentioned from classical Japanese music, possibly the most famous piece of Gagaku music ever:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZ0lcZKFQ5M

by Gigi (guest) rate this post as useful

Re: About Japanese Folk Music Scales 2017/11/9 10:08
What kind of folk music are you looking for? Maybe the closest to what you are looking for is the genre called "minyo shamisen" here?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLexedRY7eY

Or maybe you are thinking of classical style compositions from the Meiji/Taisho eras when Japan began adopting European musical styles?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Et1GNGnDhY8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29WgFkhv62w

Or maybe you would prefer enka music, which is essentially European but using Japanese modes and melodies and some stylistic techniques?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1GATyFEcqQ&list=PLoY0enzhPx2dfR4JiXsW...
by Gigi (guest) rate this post as useful

Re: About Japanese Folk Music Scales 2017/11/9 22:14
Thanks very much my brother Gigi, I appreciate your efforts in your valuable replies :)

But it seems that I can't clarify my idea by the suitable form :(

Minyo scale may the one closest to which I'm looking for, but still not exact!

I think Minyo or Enka has a different types also regarding maybe to the various regions of Japan or something else, I will search more and more till I reach to the target one day!

Thanks,,,
by Mr. Mansour (guest) rate this post as useful

Re: About Japanese Folk Music Scales 2017/11/10 00:46
I'm one of the big supporter of Trans-culturation, so I would like to present this video to you which contains a one of beautiful folk song from my country:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaDur0y0oSQ

And as you see, its a pentatonic scale like Japan, and this is the secret of my special concern to search more and more about Japanese folk music :)

Pentatonic scale is one of the most beautiful music scale (for me), but unfortunately it was snubbed in the media!
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