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rate my itinerary for 3 weeks (second trip) 2019/5/11 18:35
at the moment this is my prefered itinerary for my second trip
i visited tokyo, osaka, Kyoto, kanazawa, kamikochi, naoshima, Hiroshima, nikko, Kamakura, miyajima, okayama, hakone the first time

itinerary 1
1 osaka flight train to kobe
2 kobe
3 kobe-fukuoka train 3 hour
4 fukuoka
5 fukuoka itoshima or Yanagawa or nanzoin or ?
6 fukuoka
7 fukuoka-onomichi train 2 hour and 30 min
8 shimanami kaido
9 shimanami kaido
10 onomichi-matsue train 4 hour
11 matsue
12 izumo
13 matsue-okayama train 2 hour and 30 min
14 teshima train and ferry 1 hour and 25 min
15 inuijima train and ferry 1 hour and 30 min
16 okyama-tokyo train 4 hour
17 tokyo
18 nokogiriyama or yokoyama train
19 tokyo
20 tokyo
21 tokyo flight

this were my draft itineraries

itinerary 2
1 osaka flight train to kobe
2 kobe
3 kobe-onomichi 2 hour train 2 hour
4 shimanami kaido
5 shimanami kaido
6 onomichi-fukuoka train 2 hour and 30 min
7 fukuoka
8 fukuoka daytrip itoshima or Yanagawa or nanzoin or ?
9 fukuoka
10 fukuoka-nagasaka train 2 hour and 15 min
11 hashima / mount inasa
12 nagasaka-okayama train 4 hour
13 teshima train and ferry 1 hour and 25 min
14 inuijima train and ferry 1 hour and 30 min
15 takamatsu train 1 hour and 15 min
16 okyama-tokyo train 4 hour
17 tokyo
18 tokyo
19 tokyo daytrip nokogiriyama or yokayama?
20 tokyo
21 tokyo flight

i scrapped the idea of Nagasaki because the only reason i wanted to visit Nagasaki is teshima and im not sure its worth the detour. Since im travelling in oktober the change of heavy sea is a big change of cancellation

itinerary 3
1 osaka flight train to kobe
2 kobe
3 kobe-okyama train 1 hour
4 teshima train and ferry 1 hour and 25 min
5 inuijima train and ferry 1 hour and 30 min
6 takamatsu train 1 hour and 15 min
7 okyama-fukuoka train 2 hour and 30 min
8 fukuoka
9 fukuoka daytrip itoshima or Yanagawa or nanzoin or ?
10 fukuoka daytrip itoshima or Yanagawa or nanzoin or ?
11 fukuoka
12 fukuoka-onomichi train 2 hour and 30 min
13 shimanami kaido
14 shimanami kaido
15 onomichi-tokyo train 4 hour and 30 min
16 tokyo
17 day trip to nokogiriyama train
18 tokyo
19 day trip to yokohama train
20 tokyo
21 tokyo flight

i really like this itinerary aswell lesser travelling more sight seeing











by naoshima (guest)  

Re: rate my itinerary for 3 weeks (second trip) 2019/5/12 13:32
You have some big differences in your proposed plans - ultimately only you can decide if going to the San'in side is better for you than the alternatives. Plus for some plans, you might make a 14-day JR Pass pay off, but it's still iffy. You might run your plans through the rail pass calculator.
https://www.japan-guide.com/railpass/
or use Hyperdia
http://www.hyperdia.com
A few things that jump out, is that you don't appear to have visited Nara at all yet, which to me is a terrible oversight. The city has some of Japan's best places.
https://goo.gl/LfvWnL

I also didn't notice you seeing Himeji either, and that is well worth half a day or more.
https://goo.gl/65ZtRi

Kobe has some places to see just like anywhere, but the above are far better. Also I don't quite follow what you're saying about Nagasaki and Teshima. Nagasaki is an excellent place to visit and a unique place in Japan.
https://goo.gl/hZVjBi

For Fukuoka, there are some good places to see - I highly recommend Nanzoin.
https://goo.gl/X3LDaE
http://www.thejapanfaq.com/fukpic.html
But why you add Itoshima is unclear. There are some places but better with a car and not train or bus. You could see Dazaifu and Yanagawa together though.
And on the way back, you could if you like stop by Iwakuni. It's a nice charming place and really special in the country.
https://youtu.be/0COOZXi66mM
by Ken (guest) rate this post as useful

Re: rate my itinerary for 3 weeks (second trip) 2019/5/12 18:40
hey thanks for your quick answer
i meant hashima instead of teshima, dont know if its worth the detour to Nagasaki

since i have to flight 12 hours to japan i didnt want to travel that long to my first hotel and since i visted osaka allready i thought kobe was a nice alternative for a day
but this updated plan is mayb better

itinerary 4
1 osaka flight
2 osaka himeji castle and kobe
3 osaka nara
4 kobe-fukuoka train 3 hour
5 fukuoka
6 fukuoka itoshima or Yanagawa or nanzoin or Dazaifu
7 fukuoka
8 fukuoka-onomichi train 2 hour and 30 min
9 shimanami kaido
10 shimanami kaido
11 onomichi-matsue train 4 hour
12 matsue
13 izumo
14 matsue-okayama train 2 hour and 30 min
15 teshima train and ferry 1 hour and 25 min
16 inuijima train and ferry 1 hour and 30 min
17 okyama-tokyo train 4 hour
18 tokyo
19 nokogiriyama or yokayama train
20 tokyo
21 tokyo flight







by naoshima (guest) rate this post as useful

Re: rate my itinerary for 3 weeks (second trip) 2019/5/13 07:10
I like all the itineraries you have typed up. None seem rushed and all would be enjoyable.

I do have a personal comment on visit only Fukuoka. I love Fukuoka city. I am normal one of the first to say go visit Fukuoka. I think it is one of the better cities in Japan. Modern like Tokyo/Osaka but no where near as crowded with locals or tourists.

But with your itineraries. I find Fukuoka is a long way to go just to ignore the rest of Kyushu and only do Fukuoka city. I would omit Fukuoka if you are only doing Fukuoka. I think it is somewhat a lot of lost travel time just to do Fukuoka.

Yanagawa (as one of the only few locations you have suggested outside Fukuoka) is nice old town and boat/canal rides. But Omihachiman just 30 mins outside Kyoto also have a old town and canal/boat rides of very similar appeal.

https://en.biwako-visitors.jp/spot/detail/175
by hakata14 (guest) rate this post as useful

Re: rate my itinerary for 3 weeks (second trip) 2019/5/13 16:50
thanks for your answer
the ferry from Kansai airport to kobe isnt in the jr pass so i makes sense to base in osaka instead and make a visit to nara and the castle

about Fukuoka hmz i allready scraped Nagasaki since it wasnt on the route
i will buy a 3 week jr pass so its doable
but i can switch the 4 days Fukuoka part for
takamatsu (from okyama) instead travel to Fukuoka (better than sitting in the train)
omihachiman (from osaksa) instead of Yanagawa, (lesser traveltime and lesser touristic)
shōdoshima (from okayama) instead of day in Fukuoka (i think a day in Fukuoka is better than shodoshima)
nokogiriyama / yokoyama (from tokyo) instead of day in Fukuoka / nanzoin (i think i like nokogiriyama better than nanzoin)

are those places better?
seams like shodoshima is the least favorite place for me of all those places

by naoshima (guest) rate this post as useful

Re: rate my itinerary for 3 weeks (second trip) 2019/5/13 20:03
itinerary 4
1 osaka flight
2 osaka himeji castle (and kobe)
3 osaka nara
4 osaka omihachiman
5 osaka-onomichi train 2 hour
6 shimanami kaido
7 shimanami kaido
8 onomichi-matsue train 4 hour
9 matsue
10 izumo
11 matsue-okayama train 2 hour and 30 min
12 teshima train and ferry 1 hour and 25 min
13 inuijima train and ferry 1 hour and 30 min
14 takamatsu train 1 hour and 11 min
15 Shōdoshima
16 okyama-tokyo train 4 hour
17 tokyo
18 nokogiriyama train
19 yokayama train
20 tokyo
21 tokyo flight

so this is the updated schedule without Fukuoka
i think shodoshima and yokayama are the weakest places of this plan
by naoshima (guest) rate this post as useful

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