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JR National Rail Pass Kyoto & Hiroshima
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2023/1/25 01:50
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We are a family of 4 who would like to buy a JR National Railway Pass - for 7 days and will want to go from TOKYO to HIROSHIMA and another day to KYOTO.
We are aware that we can not use the trains NOZOMI & MIZUHO for this trip - but we are having problems finding a timetable for the period 22 - 25 FEB 2023 showing us trains we can use for the trip using the JR National Rail Pass.
We are trying to find a train from TOKYO STATION - KYOTO 24FEB around 09:00 and return around 17:30 from KYOTO - TOKYO.
We are trying to find a train from TOKYO STATION - HIROSHIMA 23FEB around 09:00 and return around 16:30 from HIROSHIMA - TOKYO.
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by Allan Kieler Kofod (guest)
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Re: JR National Rail Pass Kyoto & Hiroshima
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2023/1/25 10:59
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Stay in Kyoto or Hiroshima for the night. Even if you will continue to pay for a hotel room in Tokyo. Traversing most of Honshu 2 days in a row makes no sense.
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by LikeBike
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Re: JR National Rail Pass Kyoto & Hiroshima
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2023/1/25 11:02
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Regarding time table. For me google maps work. Just look at the list of trains and exclude Nozomi/Mizuho.
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by LikeBike
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Re: JR National Rail Pass Kyoto & Hiroshima
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2023/1/25 11:33
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from TOKYO STATION - KYOTO 24FEB around 09:00 hikari505 tokyo 9:03 --- kyoto 11:37
around 17:30 from KYOTO - TOKYO on 14Feb. hikari 660 kyoto 17:33 - tokyo 20:12
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by ken (guest)
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Re: your itinerary and required time (1)
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2023/1/26 00:30
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You had better stay overnight, near Kyōto Station, for example.
To make one-day trips from Tokyo as you currently plan, you spend more time just for going between the stations than for exploring Kyoto and Hiroshima.
Tōkyō -- Kyōto by Shinkansen HIKARI : 2 and a half hours per way.
Tōkyō -- Hiroshima by Shinkansen HIKARI + SAKURA : 4 and a half to 5 hours per way.
Also, you travel late February, when Tōkaidō Shinkansen trains might be slowed down due to the snowfall around Maibara.
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by omotenashi
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Re: your itinerary and required time (2)
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2023/1/26 00:37
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Is your Tokyo hotel just near Tōkyō Station?
For your way to Tōkyō Station, from what station can you take the first train?
Tōkyō Station has two separate Shinkansen zones; you have to find a correct ticket gate.
Shinagawa Station has one Shinkansen zone; you just follow signs for the Shinkansen.
At Shin-Kōbe Station, there is only one Shinkansen track for each direction; you can change trains via the same platform; alternatively you can choose Shin-Ōsaka Station, but you may have to get to another platform.
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On Saturday, March the 18th, JR companies will revise train timetables. Time shown below is based on the current timetable.
As you see, you cannot have much time for Hiroshima.
Non-recommendable Tōkyō -- Hiroshima day trip:
Tōkyō (Dep. 09:03) or Shinagawa (Dep. 09:10) | [Shinkansen HIKARI 505 (for Okayama)] (Arr. 12:11) Shin-Kōbe (Dep. 12:19) | [Shinkansen SAKURA 555 (for Kagoshima-Chūō)] (Arr. 13:32) Hiroshima.
Hiroshima (Dep. 16:49) | [Shinkansen SAKURA 560 (for Shin-Ōsaka)] (Arr. 18:14) Shin-Kōbe (Dep. 18:34) | [Shinkansen HIKARI 520 (for Tōkyō)] (Arr. 21:35) Shinagawa or (Arr. 21:42) Tōkyō.
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by omotenashi
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Re: JR National Rail Pass Kyoto & Hiroshima
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2023/1/26 07:53
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Plug in your trip into this website: https://japantravel.navitime.com/en/area/jp/route/When you select the result, there is a button "timetable" that shows all the trains for the day. Look for the Hikari services between Tokyo and Kyoto (as an example) - one each half hour. For Kyoto to Hiroshima, most options require a transfer (easiest is at Shin-Kobe, but many people transfer at Shin-Osaka). Also, I am assuming you are doing Tokyo to Hiroshima round trip within seven calendar days. If doing the trip within 14 days, the savings are marginal.
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