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response to are you sure 2008/8/25 10:29
Well, yes , i think i am pretty sure about this career choice. And don't worry- i know the pitfalls and difficulties in becoming a mangaka, of offering something different to the market, good art and storyline, whether to learn japanese or not,etc.
I'm actually thinking of majoring in animation when i go to college and not illustration and sequential art. In this economy, i need a career choice that can actually land me a good salary( to actually become a popular artist can and will take time).
I'm thinking about doing manga on the side, and somewhere down the line(be it for years to come) when i can get popular enough and can live off of a reasonable income, i will do it full time.
Somewhere earlier when i read this thread said that non-japanese mangaka should not stay in japan and should publish their manga in their own country. I agree with this now. Even though i'm learning japanese now, it may just prove to be a shortterm traveling tool. Mangaka probably get paid more in Japan though- this is a billion dollar industry in Japan
by gammie rate this post as useful

Think realistic here people 2008/9/7 06:26
Honestly, I've read through this whole forum, and have been both inspired and disheartened by peoples' positive and negative responses. To be a great mangaka, it seems many don't understand that this goal takes decades, not just years to accomplish and it will not be easy under by means during that time and likely there are going to be dozens of days where you're going to just want to snap your pencil in half and quit. However, it seems Shounen Jump and other companies are finally looking out into more broadened horizons for new works and employment(Likely because they realize manga produced exclusively in Japan is slowing in popularity likely because of cliche storylines being used over and over again by the same genre of people.)

This alone is a good reason to consider the career, but also remember, pay is based off of success. If you suck, you're either going to get paid diddly squat or escorted out the door, but if you're good, you'll realize pay will be much more appealing. However to get 'good' again will take large sums of time, usually years so make sure you have a part time/full time job for income, likely part time to make room for making the manga as it seems 30-60page/month deadlines are common once you get hired on.

Just because manga originated in Japan does NOT AT ALL mean you must move there just to be a mangaka. On the other hand I'm willing to bet that if you want to work for the best, and be the best, you'll need to overcome those social, and law-based barriers and move there to further your career. Unfortunately it's true you'll probably have to move there to work as one of the best but perhaps if you read the next paragraph that task will not be as daunting or horrifying as you might think....

BUT one thing I'm sick of reading is people ranting ''I wanna move to Japan and be a mangaka!!! It's my dream! I'll do it at all costs!!''.... Are you people freaking crazy?! Seriously! I'm not saying don't be one, heck no we need new blood and new ideas, don't EVER stop striving to be a mangaka but think more realistically here people.... manga is an international BUSINESS, which means publication and production is international, you will need a background to get to the top, you will need to start near the bottom in an entry level, working in Japan is NOT entry level for non-japanese mangaka or soon-to-be mangaka. It may not be as glorified or wonderful as the falsified dream of a one-in-a-billion shot of starting out in Japan in an office working for $100k/year like some seem to think is the case, but start out making manga for something like Tokyopop in your country where as you no longer have a social, lingual, or ethical barrier to smash through(yet). Once you get good here, once you've honed your mangaka skills at a professional level and can create a descent work that can be called 'manga' and not 'comic' or 'OEL Manga' or just 'Graphic Novel,' once you've made a bit of a name for yourself and have a good reference in that field, and have taken the time to master(or at least become fluent in) Japanese, perhaps you can transfer over to the Japan HQ where you can further your career if you're good enough.

Tips? I needn't waste my time repeating what many people have said in this thread, if you want tips, read this whole thread and you will know more than you did an hour ago when you started reading, guaranteed because experienced and non-experienced artists and some actual mid-level mangakas with real experience have posted here.

My only real tip that's been said over again and I have to say as well though, is work your ass off like there is no tomorrow, seriously, draw until you're eating pain killers like candy and that's no joke you will need that much practice. I can't say it enough, you will, realistically speaking, spend as much time making manga that will never go beyond your desk as you do at a full time job making the money to pay for expenses such as living and the incredibly expensive manga tools needed to make excelent quality manga. Once you get the chance, you can send in a copyrighted segment of your manga you wish to publish to tokyopop or another company of the like, then if, and only if they like it, will you even get a shot, otherwise, revise it and try again. Failure works almost better than success people, because when you fail, you know what not to do again next time. And do not forget, that there is always a chance for a 'next time' if your first attempt fails. If variety is the spice of life, then perseverence is the main friggin ingredient.

Perhaps after this step you will get the opportunity to produce your own manga but realize, that even if you are, your prized story will belong to the company, not you, and you will produce it at THEIR discretion meaning despite how long you have planned this epic story out for, your boss could say, 'end it with your next manga' when you feel you just got into it, or 'well we want you to continue this story for another few chapters, its drawing a lot of fanbase' when you were one book from the ending.

The general point: If you wanna be good, you have to prove it. Set deadlines for yourself, strict ones. Practice every day, even if it means giving up that lan party or missing out that one day hanging out with your friends/girlfriend/boyfriend; if you get your point across to them they will understand. You must give up quite a bit to become not good, but good enough. Understand that the manga you just read or are going to read has been made by someone who's full time job over the past many years has been to draw like that; you will need to dedicate yourself equally to the cause and overcome far more difficult barriers if you want to be in their shoes one day. When you work as a mangaka, you are not given your own story to work on, they give you your work and you produce as they demand..... you are the hands that draw their ideas and fuel the market of manga.
by Jerichow rate this post as useful

Re: TPanda 2008/9/16 02:43
TPanda, I completely agree with all of your contentions and thought you had some very valid points to make.

So I've read through all the previous posts and I have an additional question for everyone: If I had a story I wanted to share, Shojo theme, targeting late teens, and wanted to write to Watase Yuu (or at least her secretary hahaa), is this even near feasible?

It's less so about the money for me and more so about knowing that I have a story to share that I know will not only appeal to a younger population but would have a positive impact as well. But then again, definitely is far fetched considering the fact it is Watase Yuu. I've already tried TokyoPop and the submissions link no longer works. Their guidelines involve a mandatory sketchboard of some sort and although I can sketch, my main interest is the storyline submission. Any input?
by Re: TPanda rate this post as useful

Hey...my names Kevin nice to meet you... 2008/9/16 09:07
Hey my names Kevin J Davis Remember that! Cause i'm gonna be 1 of the best Manga-ka ever known! Haha i'm a 12 year old American kid with big dreams.But remember one thing.....any dream......no matter how big....it can be accomplished by just beleiving...lol and of course folowing up with hard work and a true passion for this dream but at the same time must be at peace with the truths of life and accept the hard facts of this world that you might not be one of those few blessed/lucky people to become a Manga-ka...sorry for being so emo about that but it's true...-sigh- But anyways never...i reapeat NEVER!...let someone beat your dreams down your dream......you wouldent beleive how many times i have been treated like a outcast just cause i wanna be a Manga-ka....and i'm always told that i was a nerd....nerd......it's such a sick word that i bet many of us dreamers have been called at one time or another........and my remark to all of those kind of people are:You don't know me well enough to say so.
by KevinTheDreamingBeleiverOfAnime rate this post as useful

Hey everyone... 2008/9/22 08:21
Hmm were to start...ok for one the only peice of advice I have is to keep on drawing till your writeing hand is throbing like hell lol and when your writeing hand is hurting to much use your other(lol if your skilled with both hands of course) Well my name is Kevin(haha just like the recent guy who posted here...and no i'm not him lol)but anyways i'm 12 years old just about too turn 13 in December and with a burning passion for anime to go along with it plus I have already hit puberty too lol.I already know it's kinda weird that a 12 year old kid is trying to give advice to a bunch of 13,16,and 18 year olds that are already experienced in the feilds of manga creating lol! But anyways now i have a few questions of my own for the pros here lol
1. Do you guys think it's an over kill to move to Japan and leave all my friends and family?
2. Were do i get good art suplies?
3. Is the Manga buisness in Japan realy that tough for a Outsider(a american boy) to get his work published?
4. Do you guys think i will be able to be as great as Rumiko Takahashi!(LOL LIKE HELL I WILL EVER BE AS GOOD AS HER!)
5. When i get to Tokyo,Japan what should i do first?
6. Which is safer...flying or takeing a cruiz ship plus which one is faster?
7. Were can i find free lessons on the internet for Japanese lessons?(lol i already know there are 3 basic catagories to writeing in Japanese so thats a good start i guess)
8. Whens the next manga competition?
Lol and thats the last of all my questions(lol finaly!)
Oh yeah! and one more thing...i'm very happy to see that i'm not the only person that has a burning firey passion for anime/manga and i can't wait to see all your names in magazines and on TV when i grow up wether it's in Japan,America or were ever in the world the only thing that matters is that we all share the same great dream so i wish all of you luck and only the best things!
but remember one thing...never give up...you will soon learn as you grow older that the path to be a great mangaka will be a rugged dangerous path with many pitfalls and deadlines(lol i should shutup there...after all i'm only 12 haha!)
by TheNextMangaka rate this post as useful

which is faster?? 2008/9/22 08:56
I can only answer question 6- you don't really think taking a ship might be faster than flying, do you? Have you ever been on a plane? Depending where in the US you are, it takes about 12 hours to fly to Japan. By ship it can take weeks to cross the Pacific.

Anyway, keep practicing your drawing techniques, and look out for exchange student programs/homestays as that is about the only way someone under 18 can come to live in Japan.
by alexvii rate this post as useful

Cool! 2008/9/23 12:26
Wow thanks a bunch...hmm...i think i might take the Ship just for pleasure lol and yes i have rode a plane but it's been a while so...Oh yeah! I almost forgot too tell yall...right now i'm trying to figure out my style of drawing haha soon I'll be the best Mankaga(lol though it won't be easy) Cause today i drew a picture of Sakura from the show Naruto and my friend said her breats were to big -.- ......it was embarrasing...lol wish me luck with my Dream lol!
by TheNextMangaka rate this post as useful

Dreams and Reality 2008/9/29 03:32
I wonder how many years I have been thinking about going to Japan in order to become a mangaka there. This winter ILm turning 26. I donLt know whether I will manage it but I donLt want to completely give up on this dream. I guess I have to try it, one step at a time. I spoke to some Japanese publishers last fall, Shueisha und Hakusensha. Hakusensha wasnLt against gaijin mangaka but Shueisha was. According to the editor I spoke to, Shueisha does not want to hire non-Japanese artists. According to them non-Japanese artists canLt tell stories that will interest Japanese readers. Hakusensha told me to take part in one of their contests. And that I certainly will when I go to Japan to study.
by flamebutterfly rate this post as useful

Thats a awesome dream... 2008/10/1 10:12
Good luck Flamebutterfly! I only wish the best things for you! That other puplisher realy pissed me off though...
by TheNextMangaka rate this post as useful

Some questions to ask yourself... 2008/10/1 13:35
..before trying to become a manga artist (in Japan or your own country)

-(Japan) Why should a Japanese company want to hire YOU? What can you do that a Japanese manga artist can't do?

-How well do you work under pressure/tight deadlines?

-What is your art level compared to other manga artists/ What makes the art style distinctive and YOUR style?

-How good are you when it comes to storytelling and creating compelling characters?

-Have you ever been published in print media or an online site (outside of like Deviant Art)?

-What is your art background (i.e. college level art courses)? How skilled are you with inking, backgrounds, etc.

-(Japan) How well do you know Japanese culture and Japanese audiences?

-What does your resume look like? How much experience do you have as a professional artist (regardless of the kind of art)?

-(Japan) Are you eligible for a work visa?

If you can't come up with honest, detailed and impressive answers to these questions, your chances of becoming a manga artist are slim or you need a lot of work. It's not impossible to become a manga artist but it will take more tha just saying you want to be on and drawing some cute character designs on lined paper.

And also remember that many of the foreign manga artists in Japan were already published in their own countries. Tokyopop isn't the only company that published OEL manga. Do some research and I'm sure you'll find alternatives (or write your own proposal to a company that already doesn't publish them).


by Chacha rate this post as useful

Hmm.... 2008/10/1 14:30
@TheNextMangaka: Thank you. Well, the response of Shueisha hasnLt surprised me, after all xenophobia is still a big issue in Japan, though there are improvements.

@Chacha: Interesting questions...

-(Japan) Why should a Japanese company want to hire YOU? What can you do that a Japanese manga artist can't do?

Hmm... interesting. My art isnLt bad at all. I think I can compete with some of the professional Japanese artists. Of course I canLt compete with the top as I have less experience but there is still room for improvement. I can score with different are stories. In order to have good chances as a gaijin mangaka in Japan one has to have a unusual style and different kind of stories.

-How well do you work under pressure/tight deadlines?

I work best under pressure. For western artists I work relatively fast though ILm far from doing hundred of pages a month (like some Japanese artists). If needed I can do about 60 pages (drawing, inking, tones) a month.

-What is your art level compared to other manga artists/ What makes the art style distinctive and YOUR style?

ILm better than the worst professional mangaka, that much I can say for sure. I steadily improve my skills and learn pretty fast. With my style I can switch between shonen and shojo at wish, I also could draw science fiction, fantasy, seinen, magical girl, horror and... well... everything. XD

-How good are you when it comes to storytelling and creating compelling characters?

In the beginning I wasnLt that good at storytelling but meanwhile I gained a lot of experience. One has to feel the flow of the story and to be able to feel and to feel with the characters. And with every projects it gets better.

-Have you ever been published in print media or an online site (outside of like Deviant Art)?

Yup, some of my stories were printed.

-What is your art background (i.e. college level art courses)? How skilled are you with inking, backgrounds, etc.

2 years of art school, 8 years of drawing experience, can do nearly any media there is, especially inking and backgrounds. I got some top places in several art contests and got my art exhibited a couple of times.

-(Japan) How well do you know Japanese culture and Japanese audiences?

Aside from common knowledge and study of books I still donLt know very much but as ILm going to university this fall to study Modern Japan this should change pretty fast. And of course there is the matter of location. I moved to Dusseldorf which has the biggest Japanese community in Germany. Plenty of chances to get to learn from experience.

-What does your resume look like? How much experience do you have as a professional artist (regardless of the kind of art)?

3 years of doing art for publishers.

-(Japan) Are you eligible for a work visa?

Not yet. I have to study and gain more experience first. And I have to take part in some of Japanese manga contests, especially the Kodansha manga contest (I even have the perfect story ready for that). I know from example that a Japanese publisher can grant you a workin visa if they are interested in your work.

If you can't come up with honest, detailed and impressive answers to these questions, your chances of becoming a manga artist are slim or you need a lot of work. It's not impossible to become a manga artist but it will take more tha just saying you want to be on and drawing some cute character designs on lined paper.

Well, as it seems my chances arenLt that bad but there is still a lot of work to do!
by flamebutterfly rate this post as useful

Visa 2008/10/1 14:49
a Japanese publisher can grant you a workin visa if they are interested in your work
Japanese companies don't grant visa. Immigration Office grants visa. If you don't have the good degrees and if the company can't justify why it wants to hire you instead of a japanese national you won't get visa.
by Toriyama rate this post as useful

Correction 2008/10/1 18:03
@Toriyama: Sorry, I used the wrong expression. A publishing company can enable you to get (meaning pay for) your working visa and be your guarantor. Without an employer to back you up itLs nearly impossible to get a working visa in Japan.
by flamebutterfly rate this post as useful

companies don't pay for visas 2008/10/1 19:19
Japanese companies don't pay for your visa, they just sponsor it, which means provide you with a job, a guaranteed salary and documents to support your application.

There is usually a fee of around 4,000 yen when you pick up your visa, but very often you will have to pay that.
by Sira rate this post as useful

Well... 2008/10/1 19:54
@Sira: ILm just saying, that a friend of mine whoLs got hired by a Japanese publisher didnLt have to pay for his visa.
by flamebutterfly rate this post as useful

clarification 2008/10/1 20:19
Companies do sometimes pay the visa fee. What I meant was that your wording-

"A publishing company can enable you to get (meaning pay for) your working visa"

made it sound like a company has to pay a considerable amount to sponsor someone for a working visa and that the company must pay, which isn't the case at all. For the sake of people reading this who might then get a false impression of the visa process for Japan, I pointed out that what you said wasn't quite accurate.

Good luck with your future career- I recommend coming here as an English teacher for example while continuing to draw so that you at least have a foot in the door and can experience life in Japan and make contacts here while working towards your goal.

Many people, myself included, have used English teaching as a stepping stone to their desired career in Japan.
by Sira rate this post as useful

ItLs not that easy... 2008/10/2 03:04
@Sira: The problem is that ILm not from an English speaking country. ItLs not even my second language. (ThatLs why ILm still making mistakes.) Japanese language schools prefer native speakers. The only way would be to do a Master in English which is out of question for me. I guess I have to take the way through university, take part in international contests and when going to Japan to study to submit entries to the contests held by manga magazines.
by flamebutterfly rate this post as useful

Answers to Chacha's questions 2008/10/3 10:47
Well i can barely free hand my own characters -.-......I hate being under presure and do not enjoy haveing a time limit.............though the story i have in mind is very unique.......and i still draw on line paper :p......man.......and i barely know how to write in Japanese....let alone speak it.......damn......i need to stop slacking off.....
by TheNextMangaka rate this post as useful

Reality check 2008/10/3 11:21
TheNextMangaka wrote:

I hate being under presure and do not enjoy haveing a time limit

If that is the case, you really ought to consider a different career, and just stick to drawing/writing manga as a hobby. Professional manga writers spend all their time working to tight deadlines for very little money, and usually destroying their health in the process.
by Dave in Saitama rate this post as useful

finally... 2008/10/4 10:40
Don't want to sound mean and crush anyone's dreams, but I've been wanting to say what Dave in Saitama has said ever since I saw these types of threads. You got to be realistic and ask yourself, "Is this seriously what I want to do?" I read many horror stories of these manga artists and to be honest, it's not something I would ever consider doing. And also ask yourself, if being there that there are so many manga artists that are talented and native Japanese that are struggling to get into this industry, why would they hire someone with little to know experience, no Japanese skill and then fly them to Japan for an interview?

I'm sorry if I'm sounding mean, but I'm just venting and get a little angry seeing so many people with just "big dreams" wanting to do this. Not so say, you can't do it, no dream is too big, but lets also be realistic. Also, I've noticed a lot of the posters are not even teens yet or are in their early teens wanting to do this. First, try a few other things and try hard in school, then see if this is something that you really want to do.
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