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Romance with a Japanese guy outside Japan 2014/8/16 18:19
Hi everyone. At the moment I'm going through a really intense period of my life. There's a lot to say, but I'll try to keep it short. I would really appreciate any feedback on this.

I am a 23-year-old Japanese language and culture student from Europe (a Slavic country, won't say which one). Less than two months ago I went to a neighboring country to join other Europian students of Japanese for a 5-day camp, where we had many activities related to Japanese language and culture. There I met a Japanese exchange student. He is a very bright person, very spirited, funny and adventurous, very inteligent, polite and tolerant of everyone's needs. He comes from a smaller city in central Japan, and has ventured into this small and not so rich Europian country as an exchange student a year ago. He had many experiences there and also gained a lot of foreign friends. He got along great with my countrymen and me (though I was a bit shy), and had even help us with our projects, sat with us during meals and escorted us to the bus station when we were leaving. During this time I grew to like him. Near the end of the camp, he said that, since he finished his college obligations in this country, he planned to travel Europe and would probably come to my country as well. I said I would be happy to meet him when he comes.

After I returned to my home country, I noticed he became friends on Facebook with others from my country, but hadn't sent me a request. So I sent it to him a few days later along with a message, asking him how he was doing and saying how much fun I had in the camp. He accepted and was surprised by the message (he probably didn't expect it since we hadn't spent that much time together, neither did I show him I liked him in any way, since it was too soon). We started exchanging messages, talking about various things. We talked in Japanese all the time, even during the camp. His English was actually not bad at all! And he picked up a bit of the language spoken in this country. I realised we had some things in common, similar interests and stuff. Kept talking via Facebook until he came to my country some twenty days later.

Before he came I offered to help him find a decent hotel and spent a lot of time researching, drawing him maps and such. He was thankful for it. He stayed for a few days, we met every day in the morning and stayed together until late at night, visiting all the famous places in town, trying local cuisine and talking a lot. Soon my male friend who was also with us in the camp came and the three of us had a blast every day while the Japanese was here. I can say I've never had such a good time in my life. I have learned and experienced a lot during this time, not to mention spent a lot of money, which I lack, but believed it was worth it.

I stll remained silent about the fact that I liked him, but let my actions speak for me. I did everything I could to help him had a good time, spent a lot of time, money, was always nice and polite towards him. He was also nice to me. Soon I had to leave the country for a vacation with my friends and before I left, I planned to reveal my feelings, though I was scared about it. But I had no idea that he would confess to me first! We sat in the cafe that was almost empty, and he told me that he liked me very much but was also afraid to confess due to the fear of refusal, and said that he regretted not coming to my country for study instead. If he had, he would have dated me. Said he hadn't dated anyone for a year. He also asked me to come to Japan for a short while if I could, though I had told him that my country is not very rich with possibilities and I could only come via scholarship or a job. He asked if he could kiss me, and I let him. Sat there for a while in each other's arms, regretting the fact that we can't be together. He was to return to Japan less than a month later. Then he escorted me to the bus station, where we kissed goodbye in public.

We were both out of the country for 10 days, me on vacation, him traveling Europe. During that time, all I could think about was him. Exchanged a few messages, I told him I missed him, he didn't reply with the same answer, just said it was cute. But expressed his wish to see me. We made a deal to see each other once again. I replaced my ticket in order to come back earlier so I could meet him. Been together for three days, saw some more interesting places, had a lot of fun. Talked a lot, I revealed a lot about myself, more than he said about his life. He even met my brother.

On the first day, he invited me to come visit him in his hotel. I refused, though he kept insisting, until I told him I would think about it tomorrow. On the next day, he insisted again, and I accepted, but was feeling very nervous about it. (I will mention that I had a very bad 3-year-long relationship that ended last year, the guy was my first boyfriend ever and I never slept with him because I didn't love him) When I came to his hotel, we watched some TV, talked a bit, when suddenly he started seducing me, though I was not sure about it at all. (I was a virgin and extremely shy) Though I told him I was very sensitive and refused him a couple of times, he kept pushing me and repeating how much he liked me, and that he wanted to do this with me before he leaves, because we can't be together. I was scared and physically resisted, but I guess I also kinda wanted it.. Later on he got tired of my resistance and just fell asleep. We just slept together in each other's embrace all night, and it was just amazing. The next day we finally did it, and he said he was happy. But said again that unfortunatelly, we couldn't be together. In the evening we had to say goodbye for good, and I told him how much he meant to me. Asked if we would see each other ever again, and he replied: most likely will not. I was very sad, but he was calm. I'm not sure why.. He also said that I would surely find a new boyfriend, but that he doesn't know if he would be able to find a new girlfriend... I noticed he was different during the day and at night. During the day there was hardly any affection from his side, though he was still very kind and friendly, and had no problem touching me in public, but at night... was so damn passionate..

Now he has returned to the country where he studied as an exchange student, and in a few days is returning to Japan to continue his studies (he's a year younger than me). We're still in contact via Facebook, and he's behaviour is still the same as before, bright and friendly. (Though he's usually not initiating contact first, he just replies to my messages) Yesterday I told him I found a way to come to Japan (I've never been) in a few months as an English teacher, and told him I expect nothing of him. Don't expect him to wait for me or anything. Just wanted to know if, when I come, if he still likes me then, would consider giving me a chance to at least talk about dating. He sounded happy about me finding a way to fullfill my childhood dream, and that is coming to Japan, but what he said about dating me... that he likes me better as a friend, and that it would be difficult for us to date even if I come. And that, if I'm thinking of coming because of him, I should stop. But that we can remain friends and that he would show me around if I come.

I'm broken. I got sick because my feelings got a hold of me. I'm in love with him and feel terrible because of his answer. I understand it may be hard to date a foreigner in Japan, and that his family may not agree, but I find it hard to accept it... He was my first serious boyfriend, I am not a person who falls in love easily.. And it only lasted less than two months.. When I asked him if he would remember me when he returns, he said: I will when I see something about your country on tv. I didn't like that and said that if this is the case, he didn't like me enough, to which he replied: why are you saying such things...

I apollogize for such a darn long email, but this experience has really affected me a lot. I'm not sure what happened, does he really like me but thinks our relationship has no future, is he a coward or was this just a summer romance to him? I believed I would be fine when he leaves, but sadness has taken over me...
by all-for-love (guest)  

Re: Romance with a Japanese guy outside Japan 2014/8/16 19:16
Im sorry to say but seems like he was just playing with you, I think he got what he wanted (sex) and isn't interested in you anymore, matter of fact I don't think he ever did like you more than ''friends''.

This is sad because I feel that he took advanced of you and you slept with him because he pressured you. I know because I was in same situation than you when I was younger.

All the best
by MonkeyBusiness rate this post as useful

Re: Romance with a Japanese guy outside Japan 2014/8/16 20:10
Stupid, stupid, naive girl, why did you even let him do those things to you?

I concur with you that his replies and attitude are beyond arrogant after he got what he wanted.

Honestly, I feel sorry for you.
by Sorry to be saying the following.. (guest) rate this post as useful

Re: Romance with a Japanese guy outside Japan 2014/8/16 22:10
Sorry to hear about your situation, but
Human Nature:
Will value things harder to achieve. As soon as he/she achieves it, value no longer remains the same.
You deserve someone better who would respect your thoughts.
by TheBlackRaven (guest) rate this post as useful

Re: Romance with a Japanese guy outside Japan 2014/8/16 22:55
Well you gave it up so easily, that now he got what he wanted.
Next time, have more self-control with a guy so you can see if he's right for you.
by ... (guest) rate this post as useful

Re: Romance with a Japanese guy outside Japan 2014/8/16 23:41
Yet Another titillating tale with a sad ending.
A US circus owner onced said: "There's sucker born every minute."

A moment of pleasure (for him)
A lifetime of regret (for her)

A bitter lesson learned; next time use your head,
by Yet Another (guest) rate this post as useful

Re: Romance with a Japanese guy outside Japan 2014/8/16 23:45
As a person who comes from the same country in eastern Europe as you (I think I got an idea where you might be from, but I won't mention the name of the country), I envy you nobly that you got such a good opportunity to work in Japan at your age.
Despite of what happened to you, I hope you still take the chance to come to Japan and fulfill your childhood dream.
Once you are in Japan, you will meet many much better guys there.
Good luck.
by sakura (guest) rate this post as useful

Re: Romance with a Japanese guy outside Japan 2014/8/17 03:38
He likes you in your country. I think he still likes you eventhough after you came to Japan but gradually he will keep distance between you. This often happens Japanese men meet Japanese women in oversea, back to Japan and then separate.
You better not to visit men's room if you don' want to expect a sexual approach.
by tokyo friend 48 rate this post as useful

Re: Romance with a Japanese guy outside Japan 2014/8/17 18:06
I think everyone here has pretty much hit the nail on the head. He only really wanted one thing from you. I'm so sorry you had this experience. You gave your virginity to someone who clearly didn't deserve it and I hope you'll find someone worth while in the future.

I will say this though. Every experience - good and bad - is a lesson and you may be hurting right now, but time is a healer. You'll come to see this is a lesson for any future endeavours. Just remember, your body is precious. You managed to withhold giving it from your ex partner for three years. Take care with who you give it to next.
by Jemineye rate this post as useful

Re: Romance with a Japanese guy outside Japan 2014/8/17 18:48
I wouldnLt say "only he got what he wanted".
From the moment you even said "it was amazing beeing together in bed and that next day you both did it (sex)", means for me that nobody here was forced!
At the same time he told you from the beginning and later again very open and clear that it would be not possible to date you! and that there is not hope for a future relationship between you both as you wanted!
So, he told you the truth!
LetLs say he played open and clean!!
On the other hand feelings are a natural thing! To feel love for somebody is everyones natural reaction!
Sometimes even we react so natural and can not control our feelings (love) for a type of person wo is not the type we normally like!
Things happen1
And for that reason it is not possible to force a person to feel love for us as we would like or expect!!
You like him very much!! You felt in love with him! You got feelings for him! And thatLs wonderful!
I donLt think you did a wrong thing having sex with him! Why? I donLt see there is here a reason to regret!
You were with the person you love!
You went free to his room because you wanted!! Normally a 23 years old person can imagine what "could" happen in that situation, specially if only "one" of both is already in love!
So, neither you nor he can be blamed!
You musst face the reality that "you" were the one who felt in love!
But HE DIDN`TLand it doesnLt mean that because he didnLt fall in love with you (as you expected) he did a bad thing to you!!
I understand anyway how bad you feel now because it was your "first time"and you really like him!
I donLt think you should feel as he has "used you"!! because first it is not truth and second you put your own dignitiy very down! And that should not happen!!
Of course he was very rude when he said "he will remember you when he would see a news about your country on tv".
That was really very bad from him!
He shouldnLt have not said that!!
Otherwise as you say, he is an open, friendly person! and for that reason you like him so much! DON`T REGRET WHAT YOU FELT ABD WHAT YOU DID WITH HIM!!
Regards

by Chelote rate this post as useful

Re: Romance with a Japanese guy outside Japan 2014/8/18 15:24
@Chelote: agree with most of your points but there were probably two junctures that I felt (perhaps OP felt the same) he was somewhat misleading or gave OP false hopes

para 5 - him citing hypothetically about dating her if he was studying in her country

para 7 - him unsure about being able to find a new girlfriend (perhaps there were other reasons that he made this remark but I felt this was again somewhat misleading, as OP might have intepreted that she meant something to him)
by CLLR rate this post as useful

Re: Romance with a Japanese guy outside Japan 2014/8/18 20:37
Yes, in one way I agree wiht CLLR!
And we donLt have to forget that OP was/is really in love with him! and of course she expected the same from him! ThatLs normal indeed!!
But what I try to point out is that according with what OP relates he didnLt give her false hopes!
Just the opposite!! he told her the reality that it would be no hope for a relationship!
I donLt think he was misleading someething!
I think he just acted as a 22 old year young man! and as japanese man he is concentrated in his studies and career!!
But I donLt think he had bad intentions with her!
OP and he are still very young!
by Chelote rate this post as useful

Re: Romance with a Japanese guy outside Japan 2014/8/18 21:39
All I can say is, lesson learned and it's time to move on. Why complicate things? Find a guy worth your time, preferably somebody who doesn't live on the other side of the globe.
by reprazent rate this post as useful

Re: Romance with a Japanese guy outside Japan 2014/8/18 22:13
I agree with Chelote.
Most of time when woman who lost their virgin to man tend to made her become lose control emotional feeling for him. Sex is very strong emotional for first timer which it can lead to fall in love much more and can become obsession. Anyway, you should have kept your virginity for the right guy and he should have should not pressure you into this. The right man should respect woman value. But you did it and you learned it. It both good and bad. The good is that you experienced it knowing what sex is like. This make you are no longer a shy girl. The bad is that you lose your virgin to a wrong guy who pressured you to do it then in the end he got what he wanted. If you really want to go to Japan to follow your child dream then go for it. However do not go for him otherwise he might be keep messing with your head and got what he wanted again.
by adventureguy (guest) rate this post as useful

Re: Romance with a Japanese guy outside Japan 2014/8/20 03:31
"Adventurguy" said that OP should had kept her virginity for the right guy!!
According to OP version "the 22 years old japanese man was the right guy for her in that moment"!! She liked him very much!!
She accepted to go to his room!! She wanted to be close to him!
She made truth her wish!!
She didnLt do something stupid having sex with him!!! NOT AT ALL!!
She complains when she say he pushed her ( or forced her) while trying to have sex with her!!
So, if she really felt being forced by him, why did she not "scape"? Why did she stay the whole night embraced with him!?
Why does she say it was "amazing"!?
She had the good chance to leave the room and to go while he was sleeping, in case she was scared of his reaction!!
For me the thing is very clear: she was/is in love with him, she wanted to be with him, she was not forced but because she was still virgin and shy she was scared!
If he had fall in love with her, as she spected it, she wouldnLt complain now being forced that day by him!!
The main problem by OP is that he didnLt fall in love with her and that he didnLt/doesnLt give her a hope for a relationship!
ThatLs really the problem for OP!
I understand that she feels very bad but we can not blame the boy!!

by Chelote rate this post as useful

Re: Romance with a Japanese guy outside Japan 2014/8/20 09:11
When one is in love, one feels it's always the right man/woman.
Cannot blame them both.
by Petal (guest) rate this post as useful

Re: Romance with a Japanese guy outside Japan 2014/8/20 09:40
@patel
Right on . Simple and short without criticizing both.
by ... (guest) rate this post as useful

Re: Romance with a Japanese guy outside Japan 2014/8/20 18:19
Thanks to everyone for taking the time to read such a long post and reply! It's been a few days and I feel a bit better. Talked to a few people who had different views on this, but till now I've formed some sort of a picture as well. I guess I should just cherish the memories (since it was really an important period of my life, it was great spending time together, and I really didn't get bad vibes from the guy, I might be wrong, but I don't think he was fake), accept the fact that all good things don't last forever (sth that has always been hard for me to do, I always cling too much), and just move on.

I especially thank Chelote, whose comments really made me feel beter! :)

And one more thing, I'm still in contact with him, but thinking of breaking it off, because he started saying some stupid things again.. mentioning past girfriend and stuff.. don't know if it's just a stupid excuse or what, I would like to keep in touch, of course, but can't return to being 'just friends' again after everything that has happened...

Guess it is better this way. :)
by all-for-love (guest) rate this post as useful

Re: Romance with a Japanese guy outside Japan 2014/8/21 06:33
ItLs nice to know that somehow or pther my comments about your situation have help you!
When I read your ad I inmediately recognized you were having a delicate situation because you expressed in details what and how you have experienced with your japanese friend!
By reading your ad I could even "felt" your emotions! I could even "see" how hurt you were!
I have read your ad many, many times!!
After that it was for me clear, you need to face the reality! even if these is not so as you expected!
Women in your situation normally always feel being used from the man what automatically make them suffer terrible and longerafter such experience! Even they put their own dignity very down! They donLt give themselves any value!!
They continue suffering after a long time!!
And that is not really necessary!!
Women should not loose their dignity! not even for the right man in their life!
By the way: when a woman loose her virginity doesnLt mean that she loose her dignity!!
Enjoy your life and never regret what you did specially if you did it for love!!
Take care
by Chelote rate this post as useful

Re: Romance with a Japanese guy outside Japan 2014/8/24 22:23
Im sorry, but...
Did you told him that you a virgin?
It's important.
It isn't necessary to do such surprises.
After all he grew cold to you after that nigh? isn't it?
At its age the main thing in the relations also is seen sex it is upset with that you appeared the virgin. Therefore stopped communication. I one so think? ?
by iCherry (guest) rate this post as useful

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