Pasmo & Suica use in Kansai area

May i know can the above cards use for bus,JR train, subway, Kintetsu and convenient store in Kansai area?

Thanks!

Yes

Those both IC cards also works in "ICOCA" and "PiTaPa" cards area in Kansai.
So you can use it for railways, buses and only ICOCA member shops service.
(some exceptions)

ICOCA is "JR-WEST" railways mainly,
http://www.jr-odekake.net/icoca/area/map/all.html
and shopping at convenience stores, also use at restaurants etc as "e-money".
https://www.jr-odekake.net/icoca/guide/money/store.html

PiTaPa is private rail (non-JR) and bus companies group network.
http://www.pitapa.com/area/index.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PiTaPa
But both cards can not be used for shopping at PiTaPa member stores.

Just you can not do these 3,
- Return the card for deposite and charge back.
- Reissue card (if lost or damaged, only registed card)
- Auto charge

If you can use "non-registed" card that anyone can use, only return the card.
It will not be necessary to explain that Suica and PASMO can not purchase in Kansai area.
Even if you can not charge at the station, you can charge it at convenience store,
https://youtu.be/Wi74WRZTte0
or it would be easier if you do re-charge (20,000Y max) in advance.

However, such IC cards is only fundamental "usable", no big discount,
it means you should find "1 day pass" or similar ones.
http://www.arukumachikyoto.jp/static.php?page=otoku_ticket&lang=en
https://subway.osakametro.co.jp/en/guide/fare/planned_ticket/otoku-joshaken_tsunen.php

Hi

Do you mean that vending machine at train station can't top up the Suica and Pasmo card? Top up only can be done in convenience store such as 7-11 and Lawson? Any other convenience store and place in Kansai can do the top up value?

As we have existing Suica and Pasmo, hence we do not want to buy ICOCA.

Thanks!

You can top up Suica at any station using ticket machine also in kansai area as Icoca.

Do you mean that vending machine at train station can't top up the Suica and Pasmo card?

???

Nobody said that. Yes, you can top up at ticket machines in the Icoca and Pitapa areas.

You can not re-charge in a small unstaffed stn where only card reader is placed like this photo.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEnhhIcUwAAUc0Z.jpg:large
(It is also possible for unmanned stns if there is a ticket vending or re-charge only machine)

However, the benefits of using an IC card(Suica,PASMO and more) are basically two.
First one is that you do not have to bring cash, mainly extra too much coins already you know,
other one is to avoid having to buy paper tickets every time at stn ticket vending machine.
Therefore, although it is certain that it can be re-charged at stn ticket vending machine,
but there is not necessarily a time margin every time
and crowded at the nearest stn of famous sightseeing spots such as Kyoto is usual.
so it is easier to re-charge at convenience store that you find soon.

But this simple reason is the same in Tokyo even in other urban areas,
it is because many people often experience a small lost by finding out
where the entrance to the stn is, especially the subway underground stn, right?

This is re-charge at stn ticket vending machine of Nankai (PiTaPa area),
https://youtu.be/P2BkpY0dcTY
but the lang switching button on the upper right is hard to see with reflection of lights.
https://i.imgur.com/l2n7KyS.jpg

The convenience store that can be charged are these 8 companies,
https://i.imgur.com/0naJg7x.png
but it is possible to find out immediately only famous big 3, 7-11, FamilyMart, and LAWSON.
Sunkus and Circle K was also a big company nationwide,
but most of the stores were absorbed by FamilyMart in last summer.
Currently there are over 66,000 convenience stores in Japan,
but these three companies manage about 60,000 stores.
Although it may seem surprising, Kyoto is a prefecture whose area is several times larger than Osaka,
but the number of convenience stores is about 1/3 of Osaka,
however, it does not have any problem if it only goes around the famous tourist spot in Kyoto city and around.