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English teaching without bachelors degree 2019/2/6 16:49
Hi Guys,

Im sorry to trouble you with a question thats been answered many times, but I've be doing a bit of research and I'm unable to find a clear answer given my circumstances. I will try and keep this as short and concise as possible.

Im a 27 year old Australian male with a strong love of Japan. Im currently here on my second holiday and have met the girl of my dreams. She is keen for me to stay as am I. Given that my Japanese isn't strong I think the best type of job for me would be English teaching, although I am open to other suggestions.

My research has led me to believe that a bachelors degree is necessary for an English position and thats something I don't have. I entered the workforce back when I was 18 on an IT traineeship which I completed and earned a certificate IV in I.T. I left that company and have spent the last few years working as a level 2 support tech at an elite private school and have a WCC (working with children check)

Its probably also worth mentioning I have a criminal record for drink driving back when I was a teenager.

If I was to marry this girl and obtain a spousal visa and complete a tefl course or equivalent, would a certificate IV and 9 years industry experience suffice for some kind of English teaching position? If not, is there a type of position somebody could reccomend that would allow me to live here while I learn Japanese and re-enter I.T.

Thank you to anybody that took the time to read everything.

Best Wishes
by shiros15  

Re: English teaching without bachelors degree 2019/2/7 09:17
If you get married to your Japanese girlfriend, you will be eligible for "spouse of Japanese national" resident status, which comes with no restriction on the type of work you can take up.

So if there is an English language school that is interested in hiring you, it will be no problem.
by AK rate this post as useful

Re: English teaching without bachelors degree 2019/2/7 09:18
You might like to explain what a "certificate IV" is - I've only come across that term in Australia and I'm not sure how widely used it is.
For the drink/drive - something to declare, but shouldn't be major.
As for getting a job and surviving while learning the language and getting married after recently meeting someone - I'll let others comment.
by JapanCustomTours rate this post as useful

Re: English teaching without bachelors degree 2019/2/7 10:33
A Cert 4 in Australia is in between a high school diploma and university degree. It's not really acknowledged by other countries.
by mfedley rate this post as useful

Re: English teaching without bachelors degree 2019/2/7 12:36
Have you considered a Working Holiday Visa?
by ... (guest) rate this post as useful

Re: English teaching without bachelors degree 2019/2/7 13:49
Thanks Japancustomtours, that is very reassuring, I was quite worried about having a criminal record. As for the Cert IV, as mfedley said its a kind of trade certificate below uni or college level. It was in I.T. specifically networking but probably accounts for 1% of my knowledge and the rest of my skills have been picked up from years on the job.

Will that be enough for a position teaching English? Or is a diploma a hard requirement?
by shiros15 rate this post as useful

Re: English teaching without bachelors degree 2019/2/7 15:09
Will that be enough for a position teaching English? Or is a diploma a hard requirement?
I think everyone have answered your question.

To 'teach' English in Japan, you either have to one have of this (briefly summarize)

1. Instructor Visa ( ALT at Japan public school)
Acquired an education in English for at least 12 years and bachelor degree.

2. Engineer/Specialist in Humanities/International Services visa
(Instructor at Language school aka Eikaiwa )
Either at least 3 years experience in related field or Bachelor degree.

You can see that you satisfy none of the two above.
( https://eng.visa-immi.com/type_visa/ )

As said, your best shot will be Working Holiday Visa or Spouse of Japanese National.
With either one, you can teach English as long as there is a company want to hire you.
If you look Caucasian,non-Asian, blond and white they'll hire you in a heartbeat.
Immigration requirement restriction as shown in 1 & 2 above won't matters much.

As for criminal background as long as it is not drug or imprisonment related, you should be OK.
by @.. (guest) rate this post as useful

Re: English teaching without bachelors degree 2019/2/7 17:05
If you get married to your Japanese girlfriend, you will be eligible for "spouse of Japanese national" resident status, which comes with no restriction on the type of work you can take up.

So if there is an English language school that is interested in hiring you, it will be no problem.
by AK rate this post as useful

Re: English teaching without bachelors degree 2019/2/7 17:27
Thanks guys for the all the answers. To the guest that posted, yes I present well and am of aryan appearance. It seems the way forward is to get married before I leave and complete a tefl course once I get back home. I was scared half to death about leaving my job back home and coming to Japan on a spousal visa only to find out that I'm unemployable due to a lack of a bachelors degree. Those worries have now been put to rest.

Thank you so much everybody! I will sleep easy tonight.
by shiros15 rate this post as useful

Re: English teaching without bachelors degree 2019/2/10 23:51
As a man here on a spouse visa without a college degree who recently moved allow me to share my 2 cents. Like you a have a background in IT, but never got the degree.

1) can you work as an english teacher without a degree?

Yes you can if on a spouse visa or a working holiday visa. I would recommend the working holiday, because no matter what you think, actually living in Japan is much different from visiting. Especially when you are living with a woman. Better to get to know her more BEFORE you are married. Also if you want to work in a public school, sorry no chance. To work in a public school you NEED a 4 year degree no exceptions. So no ALT work for you, which is the most secure and stable work. Which brings me to ..

2) Will companies hire me without a degree?

This is much different. Eikaiwa's will higher people without degrees...but... MOST GOOD eikaiwa will not hire a gaijin english teacher without a degree. That go's double for one's without Japanese english teaching experience. These are just the facts. Looks matter, but even if you are a white guy with blond hair and blue eyes, no degree means no good jobs. Your odds worsen depending on which country you come from and what country people will THINK you come from. Oh you were born and raised in america but your parents are from pakistan? good luck without a degree.

The only schools that will be willing to hire your are going to be the bad ones that have crazy hours, messed up pay schemes (like GABA or One coin where you only get paid for time teaching not actually being in the office working during your work hours) or pay REALLY low wages (like fast food worker pay). Also these schools might not hire you because you are on a holiday/spouse visa. Alot of these schools like to control the visa of their employees via being the visa sponsor. This way they have the teacher by the balls. "oh you don't want to work those extra hours?? fine we will let you go and not give you a reference. good luck on renewing your visa." I've seen this type of bullying happen all the time. Since holiday and spouse visa aren't tied to the school, they may be worried you'll quit when you find something better or that they just can't push you around. I actually had two of the bigger schools that hire without degrees straight up tell me I was over qualified and they knew when I found something better I would leave.

Once you have some experience it is A LOT easier to find a decent school and you can demand decent pay. Its the first year or two where its harder. experience, good refs, and personal connections beat anything (just like any other country).

Don't mean to be a downer but, your first year will be hard if you go the english teacher route. Felt like someone had at least let you know what you are walking into. Not saying don't do it, just come into it with your eyes open, if this is really what you want. Me and the wife love it here and don't regret coming at all.
by Mr.dose of reality (guest) rate this post as useful

Re: English teaching without bachelors degree 2019/2/11 06:43
Can you be more specific with your criminal record? You don't normally have a criminal record in Australia for drink driving/DUI unless it caused death or grievous bodily harm. Or you have had serious multiple drink driving/DUI offenses well over the limits and even while driving on the suspended license due to previous drink driving/DUI charges.

If it is simple drink driving/DUI. Japan won't wanna know about it. If it is any of the later with a criminal record attached, then they will wanna know about it.
by hakata14 (guest) rate this post as useful

Re: English teaching without bachelors degree 2019/2/14 18:40
May I ask how long do you know this girl and how old she is? Speaking already about marriage seems a little bit crazy to me. Especially in Japan I get the feeling that many young women don't know really what they want in their life. I am happily married with a japanese women, but we already new each other for 6 years when we married and she was already over 30 by that time.
by City Hunter (guest) rate this post as useful

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