why some posters persistently object
good reputations for Shirakawa-go
and why they instead recommend
not Gokayama which is in the same UNESCO World Heritage zone
but Takayama which is actually outside the zone.... https://www.japan-guide.com/e/e5950.html
Pete: Where should we go in the mountains?
Tateyama Kurobe Alpine Route
(Ogizawa -- Tateyama) may attract you and maybe your kids. https://www.japan-guide.com/e/e7550.html
- JR-East and JR-West: Tateyama Kurobe Option Ticket http://www.jrtateyama.com/e/
: Check this webpage again in spring
to see whether this discount ticket is available in 2020.
[Example of possible itinerary]
After your TDR and Hakone trips....
From Shinjuku to Matsumoto by expressway bus
(3800 yen per adult | 1900 yen per child);
From Matsumoto to Kamikochi then back by railway and bus
(5420 yen per adult | 2720 yen per child);
From Matsumoto Sta. to Nagano Sta. by JR: Rapid service
(1170 yen per adult | 580 yen per child);
From Nagano Sta. to Ogizawa Sta.
then through the Alpine Route to Tateyama Sta.
then to Dentetsu-toyama Sta.
(with Tateyama Kurobe Option Ticket);
From Toyama Sta.
via Inotani to Takayama Sta. then back by JR: Local
and from Toyama Sta.
via Shin-Takaoka and Kanazawa to Tsuruga Sta.
by JR: Shinkansen and Limited Express,
with JR-West Hokuriku Area Pass
(5600 yen per adult | 2800 yen per child)
plus JR regular tickets for Inotani -- Takayama
(1980 yen per adult | 980 yen per child);
From Shin-Takaoka Sta.
to Gokayama (Suganuma) and Shirakawa-go then back by bus
(3940 yen per adult | 1970 yen per child);
From Tsuruga Sta. to Kyoto Sta.
by JR: Limited Express
and from Kyoto Sta. to Shin-Osaka Sta.
by JR: Special Rapid
and from Shin-Osaka Sta. to Hiroshima Sta. then back
by JR: Shinkansen
and from Shin-Osaka Sta. to Kansai-airport Sta.
by JR: Limited Express,
with JR-West Kansai-Hiroshima Area Pass
(14700 yen per adult | 7350 yen per child).
JR-West Hokuriku Area Pass is good for 4 calendar days.
JR-West Kansai-Hiroshima Area Pass is good for 5 calendar days.
Using the two passes together on one same day,
you have at most 8 calendar days
from the day for heading to Takayama
until the day for getting to Kansai Airport [KIX].
The latter Kansai-Hiroshima Area Pass
is not handed at Toyama, Shin-Takaoka or Kanazawa Station;
to obtain this pass before entering Kansai Region,
you get of your train at Tsuruga Station then visit the JR Ticket Office.
This pass can cover JR train and ferry rides
between Hiroshima Station and Miyajima Pier.
The renovation work on Grand Torii Gate of Itsukushima Shrine
may be still continuing.
(Personally I feel rather lucky
to witness such large-scale renovation of historical structures.) https://www.japan-guide.com/e/e3450.html