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Return to Japan impossible? 2024/9/16 12:54
Hi,

this is going to be a long post, but it can't really be helped. I already tried keeping it as succinct as possible!

Last year, I was living in Japan on a UK working holiday visa, returning home earlier this year in January.

I am currently thinking of potentially returning via a work opportunity or just as a tourist (in the future).


Now we get to the story, which explains why this may / might not be possible (Sorry again for the length. I also assure you, that everything I typed out here, as silly as it may sound to you, did in fact, 100% happen):


I had to deal with the Japanese police while I was there, as I was being accused of something I did not do. Allow me to explain further.

I was living in Hokkaido at the time (November 2023), at a friend's place. I was allowed to use his car to explore and run errands / get groceries etc., in exchange for petrol money. One snowy night, I return from the grocery store only to see that 2 people were blocking the last parking spot in the lot. They were apparently waiting for their friends to return with their car, so they were preventing me from parking there myself. They didn't speak English and my Japanese at the time, wasn't as good as it is now. Despite the language barrier, they acted quite rude and dismissive towards me, gesturing me to get lost and not park there. Again, this wasn't their lot or spot, anyone was allowed to park there. Not sure on what to do and getting cold, I left the car in the lot, parked in front of those guys. It was only meant to be temporary, as my intention was to get my friend / host and help me resolve this issue / translate if necessary. Once inside his apartment, I tell him about the situation outside, when we see flashing lights approaching.

Turns out they or their friends called the police?

After a while, the police come knocking on the apartment door and ask to see the driver of the vehicle. I come to the door and they tell me that that one of the gentlemen outside, claims I purposely hit him with the car in anger, which his friends all affirmed as well apparently. I was legit speechless and just standing there, slack-jawed. What followed, can only be described as the most gruelling experience I have had while I was in Japan. All evening, until around 11:30 pm, we went through the entire scenario, several times. They made sketches, we traced steps outside etc.

They even got a forensics unit out there, with UV light and everything, to check the front of the car for any potential signs of a collision.

Let me just quickly say, in case it wasn't obvious already, I didn't hit that person period. Absolutely impossible, no way! There were at least 2 metres of distance, maybe even 2.5, between the front of the car and them. So that one guy, probably angry at me for just leaving the car out there, blocking the spot for their soon-to-arrive friends, seemingly wanted revenge and just straight up lied to the cops LOL!!!!

Anyway, they weren't able to find anything concrete that night so they returned the next morning, to question me some more, retrace all the steps and have a look at the car again during daytime, and so on. But again, nothing.

I also want to mention that the police response seemed completely overkill. They had 6 cars out there in total, securing the parking lot, on the road, the forensics unit etc.

It also felt like the police was distrustful of and against me from the get-go. Like they were just looking for the slightest scratch on the car, any discrepancy, whatever... anything to screw me. I know they were probably just doing their job, but Idk., it felt like... they had nothing else to do that evening and were taking this waaaay too seriously (6 police cars lol, absolutely unheard of in the UK, for something like this?!). I also don't want to attribute this to discrimination, but I am a female and a person of colour and the police didn't seem to be impartial at all. The guy who claimed I hit him, was Japanese. I also don't know what exactly the police were told on the phone or when they talked to the "injured party".

Anyway, back to the story. They then tell me, "we'll be in touch" and they leave.

They also told me the guy would need to see a doctor and produce some kind of proof / letter, confirming that I hit / touched him with the vehicle or that such marks / contusions were found on him.

So I am thinking, okay, nothing's gonna come of this and while still shaken up and honestly pissed, I manage to move on from it and end up leaving Hokkaido two weeks later, to travel Kansai and southern Honshu, before I depart from Osaka.

It's now mid January, I'm in Hiroshima, after having explored Osaka, Kyoto, Nara, Kobe and Himeji, basically all / most of Kansai. This was approximately 1 week from my return flight, a Monday.

I received a message from the friend in Hokkaido, telling me that the police returned, asking for me. He told them that I had left and they told him, that the guy wasn't able to produce that medical report, but is pressing charges nonetheless? So they wanted to see me at the station, all the way back in Hokkaido. He was also given the number of the supervisor, who initially interviewed me that night, with the instruction to forward it to me. So I do just that only to have a woman answer, instead of the supervisor. She speaks okay English though and tells me that he isn't in today, but that she would be able to assist me as well. After 40 frustrating minutes on the phone (I was asked the same questions like 20 times lol), it all boils down to them demanding I return to Hokkaido, specifically to their station (it was a town northeast of Sapporo), and preferably soon at that. I told them that I return all the way back up there, that it would cost me an arm and a leg and that I am in Hiroshima right now, almost at the opposite end of the country! Then they tell me to call them back on Friday to discuss this with the supervisor directly? Well, my flight was on the following Monday, just fyi.

But before I ever got the chance, my friend contacted me once more, telling me that they just contacted him again, asking for my exact location, so that they could send someone to pick me up / make contact in person or something along those lines, no further info given. He didn't have my exact address in Hiroshima and he probably wouldn't have given it out anyway if he did.

That was on Wednesday, 2 days before the scheduled call with the supervisor on Friday and 2 days after the call I had with the station on Monday.

Now I was legit freaked out. At that point, I was aware of how "different" Japan's legal system can be, from confessions under duress to assumed guilty until oroven innocent, discrimination, holding individuals for 23 days without charge etc.

So I wasn't 100% sure on what to do next.

I hadn't done anything wrong, so I thought, maybe I have nothing to worry about.

But on the other hand, my flight was just a few days away, the whole language of "pick me up / in person", sounded suspicious as hell. It also bothered me that they told me to wait till Friday to to call them again and talk to the supervisor but then they contact my Japanese friend in Hokkaido, hoping he provides them with my current address? It just felt really sketchy and disingenuous. I was a gaijin, black, and female + all the horror stories I was told / had heard etc. etc. etc.

I would also lose my 700£ (non-refundable) ticket, if I were to be detained by them, I thought.

So I decided it would be best to just lay low until my flight date and not contact them again.

And it worked!

I was able to leave the country without issues and my friend wasn't contacted by the police again either.


Now we get to the present:

As mentioned at the beginning, I am toying with the idea of returning via a work visa or potentially just as a tourist, to Okinawa specifically.

Would that even be possible? Or would I get arrested at the border?

With a work visa I wouldn't run that risk, as the worst case scenario would just be a denial.

I have no idea what became of that situation after I left. Like I said, they didn't return to my friend's apartment and no other news. Do you think I have a criminal record in Japan now? Would I have to mention this situation on a visa form? Probably not a good idea, but I don't know.

Who would I even contact regarding this?

The police station wasn't helpful at all.

Preferably someone that speaks English. My Japanese has improved a lot, but I don't know any legal Japanese and don't wanna say anything that could be misconstrued / incriminate me etc.


So, what do you think is the situation in JP? And what would be the best course of action?

Am I just blowing this out of proportion? Or is this as serious as I think it is, and requires special attention, before I make any moves towards Japan again?


Thanks!
by Kokujinja (guest)  

Re: Return to Japan impossible? 2024/9/16 21:22
good morning.

i think you are right in saying that
the police does not have much on in japan
as it is a fairly safe country compared to the rest of the world

if it was me
no way i would return to japan UNLESS i am absolutely certain that
no charges will be or have been pressed against me
there is a lot of beautiful places in the world
and japan is not the only country

before your bold take off
please familiarise yourself with the concept of hostage justice
https://www.hrw.org/report/2023/05/25/japans-hostage-justice-system/de...

if the worst ever happen when you are in japan
please get in touch with the British Embassy and / or below
https://kokusai.oihf.or.jp/en/project/soudan/

all the best !
by anastasia (guest) rate this post as useful

Re: Return to Japan impossible? 2024/9/17 06:42
Get your friend to contact that police station and ask if the charges actually happened.
by H (guest) rate this post as useful

Re: Return to Japan impossible? 2024/9/17 11:15
Sounds like you're nothing but a victim. I hope you get the chance you want to rewrite your bad impression of Japan. Below are a couple of places you can start from. If you're afraid of contacting yourself, you can write down the whole thing and have a friend read/transfer it for you.

Japanese government help
https://www.moj.go.jp/content/001227211.pdf

Hokkaido Prefectural email help
https://www.jinken.go.jp/soudan/PC_AD/0101_en.html
(leads from https://www.pref.hokkaido.lg.jp/ks/dms/jinken/jinken-hp/foreigner.html)
by Uco rate this post as useful

Re: Return to Japan impossible? 2024/9/18 14:38
Easiest thing to do would be to have your friend contact the police station on your behalf.

My ex wife filed a criminal complaint against me a few years ago telling the cops that I stole her things (in honesty it was my grandmotherfs wedding ring that I had given her). They called me into the station interrogated me for hours on 3 occasions, took my photo, finger prints and informed me that I wasnft under arrest but that they were referring my case to criminal prosecutors. I think it helped that US embassy wrote a letter to the prosecutors on my behalf stating that they were aware of my case and following it closely.

3 agonizing months later Ifm informed that the Japanese prosecutors dropped my case and declined to pursue charges.

Japanese police are perfectly polite until they are not. Do not come back to Japan until you are absolutely sure!

Go anywhere else in Asia to work. Taiwan is like a nicer version of Japan with a population that speaks much better English!
by C (guest) rate this post as useful

Re: Return to Japan impossible? 2024/9/23 15:05
You have a somewhat strange and unrealistic story, but let's assume this actually happened. The car is not yours. The person who owns the car should have been held accountable. Did you have a driver's license or not? In both cases, the person who owns the car should be held accountable. Your story is completely unrealistic and it seems that you are hiding some information. To get the necessary help, you should say what happened with more frankness.
by Tony (guest) rate this post as useful

Re: Return to Japan impossible? 2024/9/24 13:21
I was quite curious when reading this story and just wondering how there would be some younger punks who pretended to get hit by a car and then tried to persecute you, despite not having any proof of it, not to mention, the medical documents proved to be a lie as well. As someone else mentioned, are you telling all of the details about what happened, or are you leaving things out?

I don't know how police could just go on accusations and try to follow up with trying to hold you for questioning when it's quite clear from what you've said, things don't add up. Didn't the car you were driving have a dash camera? Literally 99% of cars in Japan have them due to issues like this, so if there was some sort of legal dispute that these kids claimed, the camera would prove they're lying. Why didn't your friend who's the owner of the car do anything with the camera?

I'm also wondering how just some punks would go so far to lie to actually go to the police to say some random foreigner hit them with a car, with literally no damage, no medical information to show damages, etc. Either there are some major details being left out in this story, or it's just some sort of elaborate "feel bad for me" kind of story. Not accusing you OP, but some things aren't adding up from what you've mentioned.
by Al (guest) rate this post as useful

Re: Return to Japan impossible? 2025/1/2 14:25
@kokujinja

I just read your story and I can tell you in a nutshell what to expect. this is 3 months old post and
Japan guide says " This is an old thread! Please do not post to this thread unless it is highly relevant to the question discussed. If you have a related question, please create a new thread instead."

But I will try to explain :


1- If the Hokkaido police were looking for you, you need to call the police station and find out if they have a warrant for your arrest or not. A Japanese warrant never expires. remember that.....

a- If they have one that never expires, you will be arrested immediately upon landing in Japan.

Possibilities:

a- You come to Japan, turn yourself in and face justice (hostage justice )

b- You never return to Japan.



2- If the police did not have an arrest warrant, you were never charged or arrested, never went to court, never received a prison sentence, never received a suspended sentence.


If YES, you can enter Japan without any problems. they won't even ask you a question and you don't need to mention any of that story because its not in the data.


Regardless....Think before you do anything. Think carefully. Personally, I think you are not quite suited for Japan. In all honesty, if you think you are violent and can get into trouble easily. I would say stay away, Japan is not for you, but I can't judge you or anyone else, judge for yourself.



Good luck..
by nazekaze rate this post as useful

Re: Return to Japan impossible? 2025/1/3 02:26
@Kokujin


First of all, I would like to thank Japan Guide for bringing this post back up.

I said earlier that before you arrive in Japan you should call the relevant police station and find out if there is a warrant for your arrest or not but if you are not able to speak Japanese don't try to call them,

If the Japanese police are looking for you but have not informed you of the reason and do not have a warrant, you have the right to ask them to explain why they are looking for you and politely refuse to cooperate further until they give a clear explanation or provide a warrant.
in such situation You should consider contacting a criminal case lawyer in Hokkaido to advise you of your rights in this situation. If it is clear that the Japanese police are looking for you and may arrest you without a warrant, you are legally allowed to refuse to go there or answer their questions, and you have the right to remain silent. If you decide to go there and they detain you, you should politely refuse to cooperate and demand to speak to a lawyer immediately, because without a warrant or clear legal reasons for detention, you are not obligated to reveal any information. But they don't care, they will lock you up anyways.
But you are not in Japan, so you should be smart enough not to go to that police station without finding out what is going on.
Once again, if the police don't tell you what would happen to you and tell you to just go to the station, that means you might get arrested. DO NOT GO. Yes, the Japanese police can arrest you without a warrant and later charge you without any crime.
The reason is this happening because you have become the target of a scam we call Ataria. So these guys want to make money and they just make up this story to make money, but the Japanese police will only be on their side, so you will get in trouble either way.

As I said above find a criminal lawyer in Hokkaido and hire that lawyer to go to the police station to find out if the police have a warrant for your arrest or not. MAKE SURE of that, otherwise don't come back.
If they have one, don't return to Japan. You can, but you will be arrested, and the lawyer will cost you a lot, also if you are charged and convicted, which can be a prison sentence or a suspended sentence, and in both cases you will not be able to stay in Japan, will be deported, and will not be able to enter Japan for life... So don't return to Japan until you make sure with that lawyer.

by nazekaze rate this post as useful

Re: Return to Japan impossible? 2025/3/31 18:22
Kokujinja, can you give us an update? Did you eventually return to Japan?
by Zaiban (guest) rate this post as useful

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