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Greek seeking English teaching job
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2007/8/3 18:34
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Hello , I am George and I live in Greece.I wonder if I could get a job as an English teacher in Japan. All job offerings I have come across so far require a 'native speaker'.Does this necessarily mean that I have to be from USA , United Kingdom e.t.c? I have studied computer science at the university and have a First Certificate in English so far. Would getting a Certificate of Proficiency in English improve my chances ? Or do I have no chances at all?
Thank you
P.S Perhaps I could become a Greek teacher but I have found no job offering for a Greek teacher so far either. I don't want to be a software developer anymore... I want to deal with people instead of machines. I want to live a more simple and joyful life away from big cities...
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by George
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If you are not a native english speaker, then you'll need to demonstrate English ability. Such as the TOEFL. If you wish to look for greek teaching positions, a great website for you to research is called "DAVE'S ESL CAFE" http://www.eslcafe.com/
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by John
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Greek seeking teaching job in Japan
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2007/8/5 16:37
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Thank you so much for your answer! Hmmm...Do I really need TOEFL?I mean, if I get the CPE ( Certificate of Proficiency in Engish) would n't that be even better?! Do you recommend Cambridge or Michigan certificate?! And thank you for the link! In general , how would you rate my chances of getting an English teaching job in Japan if I 'm not a native speaker but I do have a strong certificate?! Thank you very much
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by George
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Teaching English
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2007/8/5 16:43
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George,
In general , how would you rate my chances of getting an English teaching job in Japan if I 'm not a native speaker but I do have a strong certificate?!
Not impossible, but very low. Japanese English teachers are paid a fraction of what native-English teachers are paid, so why would an employer (or a student) choose a non-Japanese non-native English speaker over an English-speaking Japanese national?
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by Dave in Saitama
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You are right...
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2007/8/5 16:49
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Yes, I see your point... Well , I guess I 'll just have to keep trying even if my chances are really low...
I want to thank all of you for your kind replies...
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by George
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it really depends
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2007/8/5 19:12
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It depends George, do you want to teach at an elementary school? Highschool or Universities? Students, Children or adults? I am not a native english speaker and enjoying my life here so much teaching and interacting with children. You can really find a teaching job here.
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by ...
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That's great news!!!
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2007/8/5 23:07
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My friend , thank you so much for your answer! I felt very dissapointed but now I am starting to hope again!
Advice me and help me! This is really important to me.
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by George
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don't give up
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2007/8/6 01:08
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I may contact you if I have time George. Many threads here seem to be very negative and depressing concerning non natives teaching in Japan. I'm not saying it's easy to find a teaching job but it's certaintly not impossible. You really have to push yourself and not give up. When I arrived here I contacted 50 to hundreds of schools, had bad and good interviews and eventually found myself a job. I love children and enjoy my life very much.
Good luck to you
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by ...
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I don't see how it is negative to say that if one had a TOEFL that it would certainly increase their chances?
Yes its hard even if you had one, and are not a permanent resident of a english speaking country, but you want to do everything to increase your chance right? Increase your chance by having all the certificates you can have certifying your knowledge of english.
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by John
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You're right, a TOEFL will certaintly increase his chances of finding a job here. I guess I was only trying to point out that he should not give up so easily concerning finding work here. I know quite a number of non natives teaching here so he should give it a try :-)
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by ...
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You guys mean TEFL (Teaching English as Foreign Language - something teachers-to-be get trained in) certificate, not TOEFL (Test of English as Foreign Language - a test non-native speakers of English take in order to qualifyt and enroll in universities in English-speaking countries), right?
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by ...
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Question! :-)
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2007/8/6 17:28
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To my friend was is also a non native speaker : Hmm...Could you please tell me what were your qualifications when you tried to apply for the English teaching position? I mean , your studies, your English certificates, previous teaching experience. This would help me understand better my chances and goals.. Thank you!
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by George
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not impossible
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2007/8/7 00:07
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At least I know one of my friend, who is Japanese-Brazilian but went to American school all her life, got a job teaching English, no problems. For you, your foreigner looks are already an advantage, of course. The rest depends on your accent, I suppose. Why don't you start emailing companies and tell them how well you speak English ?
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by shimaki
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Often, they are looking for how you SOUND, not necessarily how proficient your English is alone.
e.g. Japanese people want to sound like a native English speaker, so if you don't sound that way, that is not what they are after.
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by Sandy
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Hello George, I am American of Greek decent and I just HAVE to help you. I know a Romanian lady here who has only a 2 year nursing degree and a thick accent, but she is teaching A LOT! If she can do it, you can! Sounds like you are qualified. I would check rural places and places like the YMCA. My friend teaches at a kindergarten and some elementary classes. If you can get here and have money to spend and stay, maybe coming here and searching in person would be a good idea. Yamanashi, where I live, is close enough to Tokyo and in a rural setting and may offer many opportunities. Nothing is impossible, Na prospatheis! Na eisai tuxeros! Athena
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by Athena
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