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Greek seeking English teaching job 2007/8/3 18:34
Hello ,
I am George and I live in
Greece.I wonder if I could get a
job as an English teacher in
All job offerings I have come
across so far require a 'native
speaker'.Does this necessarily
mean that I have to be from
USA , United Kingdom e.t.c?
I have studied computer science
at the university and have
a First Certificate in English
so far.
Would getting a Certificate
of Proficiency in English
improve my chances ?
Or do I have no chances at all?

Thank you

P.S Perhaps I could become
a Greek teacher but I have
found no job offering for
a Greek teacher so far either.
I don't want to be a software
developer anymore...
I want to deal with people
instead of machines.
I want to live a more simple
and joyful life away from
big cities...
by George  

. 2007/8/5 15:26
If you are not a native english speaker, then you'll need to demonstrate English ability. Such as the TOEFL.

If you wish to look for greek teaching positions, a great website for you to research is called "DAVE'S ESL CAFE" http://www.eslcafe.com/
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Greek seeking teaching job in Japan 2007/8/5 16:37
Thank you so much for
your answer!
Hmmm...Do I really
need TOEFL?I mean,
if I get the CPE ( Certificate
of Proficiency in Engish)
would n't that be even better?!
Do you recommend
Cambridge or Michigan certificate?!
And thank you for the link!
In general , how would you
rate my chances of getting
an English teaching job
in Japan if I 'm not a native
speaker but I do have a strong
Thank you very much
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Teaching English 2007/8/5 16:43

In general , how would you
rate my chances of getting
an English teaching job
in Japan if I 'm not a native
speaker but I do have a strong

Not impossible, but very low.
Japanese English teachers are paid a fraction of what native-English teachers are paid, so why would an employer (or a student) choose a non-Japanese non-native English speaker over an English-speaking Japanese national?

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You are right... 2007/8/5 16:49
Yes, I see your point...
Well , I guess I 'll just
have to keep trying even
if my chances are really low...

I want to thank all of you for
your kind replies...
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it really depends 2007/8/5 19:12
It depends George, do you want to teach at an elementary school? Highschool or Universities? Students, Children or adults?
I am not a native english speaker and enjoying my life here so much teaching and interacting with children. You can really find a teaching job here.
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That's great news!!! 2007/8/5 23:07
My friend , thank you so much
for your answer! I felt
very dissapointed but now
I am starting to hope again!

Advice me and help me!
This is really important to me.
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don't give up 2007/8/6 01:08
I may contact you if I have time George. Many threads here seem to be very negative and depressing concerning non natives teaching in Japan. I'm not saying it's easy to find a teaching job but it's certaintly not impossible. You really have to push yourself and not give up. When I arrived here I contacted 50 to hundreds of schools, had bad and good interviews and eventually found myself a job. I love children and enjoy my life very much.

Good luck to you
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Thank you 2007/8/6 02:08
Thank you for your support.
I hope I will hear from you.
by George rate this post as useful

. 2007/8/6 03:06
I don't see how it is negative to say that if one had a TOEFL that it would certainly increase their chances?

Yes its hard even if you had one, and are not a permanent resident of a english speaking country, but you want to do everything to increase your chance right? Increase your chance by having all the certificates you can have certifying your knowledge of english.
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yup 2007/8/6 06:20
You're right, a TOEFL will certaintly increase his chances of finding a job here. I guess I was only trying to point out that he should not give up so easily concerning finding work here. I know quite a number of non natives teaching here so he should give it a try :-)
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... 2007/8/6 07:59
You guys mean TEFL (Teaching English as Foreign Language - something teachers-to-be get trained in) certificate, not TOEFL (Test of English as Foreign Language - a test non-native speakers of English take in order to qualifyt and enroll in universities in English-speaking countries), right?
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Question! :-) 2007/8/6 17:28
To my friend was is also a
non native speaker :
Hmm...Could you please tell
me what were your qualifications
when you tried to apply for
the English teaching position?
I mean , your studies,
your English certificates,
previous teaching experience.
This would help me understand
better my chances and goals..
Thank you!
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not impossible 2007/8/7 00:07
At least I know one of my friend, who is Japanese-Brazilian but went to American school all her life, got a job teaching English, no problems. For you, your foreigner looks are already an advantage, of course. The rest depends on your accent, I suppose. Why don't you start emailing companies and tell them how well you speak English ?
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sound 2007/8/7 13:16
Often, they are looking for how you SOUND, not necessarily how proficient your English is alone.

e.g. Japanese people want to sound like a native English speaker, so if you don't sound that way, that is not what they are after.

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thank you 2007/8/7 16:25
Thank you all for your
kind help.
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Boreis! 2008/2/14 19:01
Hello George, I am American of Greek decent and I just HAVE to help you.
I know a Romanian lady here who has only a 2 year nursing degree and a thick accent, but she is teaching A LOT! If she can do it, you can! Sounds like you are qualified. I would check rural places and places like the YMCA. My friend teaches at a kindergarten and some elementary classes. If you can get here and have money to spend and stay, maybe coming here and searching in person would be a good idea. Yamanashi, where I live, is close enough to Tokyo and in a rural setting and may offer many opportunities. Nothing is impossible, Na prospatheis! Na eisai tuxeros!
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