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want or desire - a few questions 2010/8/15 00:18
for example, if i wanted to say "do you want to eat?" as in a situation of one's home asking a guest.

should the "hoshii" be at the last place of the verb part or after "anata wa" or front?

like, "(anata wa) hoshii tabemasu ka?" or "taberu hoshii masu ka?"
can the "tabemasu ka" be replaced by "taberu imasu ka?" or "taberu arimasu ka?"

i also heard that "-tai" works also..
so is it like "(anata wa) tabetaimasu ka" or "tabetai desu ka"?

thankyou/arigato :D
by AssassinWarrior  

... 2010/8/15 19:20
When it comes to "want (to do something)," you cannot use "hoshii" at all. "Hoshii" is for "want (something, a noun)."
You need to use the "-tai" form of the verb to express what you want to do, e tc.

So it will be:
- Tabetai desu ka?
Or actually, in real-life use, it will probably be (to make it into a full, meaningful sentence):
- Nani ka tabetai desu ka? (Do you want to eat something?)
- Shokuji wo shitai desu ka? (Do you want to dine? "shokuji wo suru/shimasu" = to eat, to dine, to have meal)

The negative form is like the "i-adjective." If you are asked:
- Nani ka tabetai desu ka?
and if you are not hungry, you'd say:
- Iie, ima wa tabetakunai desu. (No, I don't want to eat for now.)
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re: 2010/8/15 19:30
oh i under stand now, thankyou.
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have a few more questions. 2010/8/15 23:12
if i want to say "i want nothing" can these following one works as well?

"(watashi wa) nantai desu."
Or is it "nantakunai desu."?
nani mo hoshii (ku nai?) desu.

thanks.
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... 2010/8/15 23:17
AssassomWarrior,

It will be "Nani mo hoshikunai desu."
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Whoops 2010/8/15 23:17
Sorry, I spelled your name wrong, AssassinWarrior.
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re: 2010/8/16 01:23
ahh i see thankyou.

im kinda confused between -tai and hoshii thats why. i know how hoshii and -tai them selves work but i need to figure out when to use which, also when turning them into negative.

can you please give me some details between the two and when to use them? thanks.
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... 2010/8/16 09:26
As I mentioned already, "(...ga) hoshii" is "I want (something). Only nouns follows this verb. So that's when "want" is used as the main verb in the sentence.

- (Watashi wa) kora ga hoshii desu. (I want some coke.)
- Kora wa hoshikunai desu. (I don't want any coke.)

"....tai" form of the verb is used to talk about when you want "to do something."
- Kora ga nomitai desu. (I want to drink some coke.)
- Kora wa nomitakunai desu. (I don't wan to drink any coke.)
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re: 2010/8/16 11:58
ah. wakarimashite!
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. 2010/9/8 12:33
As AK said, basically "-tai" is for verbs and "hoshii" for a noun.

Also if you use hoshii with a verb it would mean "want something to be done"

ex : tabete hoshii = i want (it) to be eaten.

by extension, if you're talking to someone = i want you to eat.
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re: 2010/9/8 13:15
i see! thanks for the extra explanations.
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