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Two topics in a sentence
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2012/12/4 14:19
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白い箱はカウチの上に緑のランプは机の上にあります。
This seems wrong.... like a verb is missing from the first topic. I got this from a Japanese tutorial site. I'm assuming that I'm missing some grammatical rules. Could someone break this down for me?
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by hajime gakusei
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Re: Two topics in a sentence
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2012/12/4 16:04
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That's very nomal Japanese. But adding kutouten "、" is more better. 白い箱はカウチの上に、緑のランプは机の上にあります。 The duplicate verb "あり/ある" is omitted. 白い箱はカウチの上にあり、緑のランプは机の上にあります。
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by ajapaneseboy
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Re: Two topics in a sentence
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2012/12/4 23:45
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白い箱はカウチの上に緑のランプは机の上にあります。
Grammatically 「ある」 here works as a predicative verb for both 「白い箱はカウチの上に」 and 「緑のランプは机の上に」. However, a punctuation mark 、 ( 読点 [touten]) is missing between the two parts. cf. Another punctuation mark 。 is called句点 [kuten] . 句読点 [kutouten] = 句点 [kuten] and 読点 [touten].
If a sentence has many topics, or if a part for a topic is long, it's better not to omit a predicative verb.
When a set of words which has one meaning is partly omitted, that can make the expression unkind and/or misleading. In your example, a set of words 「__ の上に」 shows a location, so it's better not to omit 「の上に」 here, i.e. it's better to avoid an expression like 「白い箱はカウチ、緑のランプは机の上にあります。」.
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by omotenashi
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Re: Two topics in a sentence
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2012/12/9 17:16
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I'm no teacher myself but maybe my teacher's explanation would help. This is how we were thought this in my university:
The two 'wa' particles are comparison/contrast particles. So in your sentence, the meaning would be like "the white box is on the couch, (while) the green lamp is on the table."
I hope this helps some... again, I'm just a student myself, but this is how I was taught.
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by bird (guest)
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