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jr pass 2016/12/25 16:15
hello everyone
I'm a little confused about trains.
I understand that if I buy JR I can only use them.
i can use ltd express?
my path:
kansai airport landing 9 pm (bus to kobe) 17/3
kobe 1 day (bus to takamatsu)18/3
takamatsu 3 days 19-21/3(train to hiroshima)
hiroshima 2 days 21-22/3(train to kyoto)
kyoto 4 days 22-26/3 (train to kanazawa)
kanzawa 2 days 26-28/3 (bus to takayama)
takayama 2 days 28-30/3( bus to tokyo)
tokyo 6 days 30-4/4
i want to buy jr pass for 7 days from 20 till 26 on march
(takamatsu-hiroshoma-miyajima-kyoto-kanzawa).
I am thinking about it.
Excellent price, however the frequency of trains without the NOZOMI and MIZUHO and the EXP LTD ... is significant.
Is Apart from the price of the ticket JRPASS priority over buying a single ticket ?

thanks alot/

by eg (guest)  

Re: jr pass 2016/12/25 19:41
Use "HyperDia" for comparing.
http://www.hyperdia.com/en/
https://www.japan-rail-pass.com/public/files/HYPERIA4.jpg

This PASS is not covered all but if possible plan shorter will be best.
https://www.westjr.co.jp/global/en/ticket/pass/kansai_hiroshima/
No need Takamatsu 3 days and Hiroshima 2 days if just for sightseeing.

Both Pass covered LtdExp of Conventional lines.
Read Pass web again n again.
NOZOMI and MIZUHO are Shinkansen(bullet train) name.
Shinkansen are No operating on Conventional lines.
(on High speed tracks only like this)
https://youtu.be/WqIcLv82qMc
by iSA-nee (guest) rate this post as useful

Re: jr pass 2016/12/25 20:33
hi

So I understand, except at the site of HYPERDIA
NOZOMI / MIZUHO / HAYABUSA (SHINKANSEN
Private Railway
I can mark everything.?(if i use jr pass?) To make a comparison if i should buy or not.
incidentally,
Interest takamatsu three days of Star Tours (Naoismh, AWA ...)

thanks so much
by eg (guest) rate this post as useful

Re: jr pass 2016/12/25 22:13
There are several levels of trains.

A Liner is usually a few cars long, and stops at every station. If you are going a long distance, it takes a while. The seats on either side of the cars may face forward, or, may face the middle of the car.

A Rapid Service Liner stops at fewer places. The seats are the same.

A Limited Express stops at even fewer places, and is the fastest way to travel on a regular rail. All the seats face forward, and you can reserve your seat. There is usually a first class car or two, a few reserved seat cars, and some unreserved seating cars.

Shinkansen bullet trains are similar to Limited Express trains, in that all the seats face forward, and there are first, reserved, and unreserved cars.

There are JR trains and non-JR trains. The Nozomi, Mizuho, and Hayabusa are privately run Shinkansen, that can not be used with a JR Pass.

As for your first day of travel. There is a ferry that runs from Kobe to Takamatsu on Shikoku Island for 2000 yen. It will be faster than taking the trains. and is a little more cost effective.

http://www.japan-guide.com/e/e2355_01.html

From here, you could get a 5 day JR Kansai Hiroshima Pass for about half the cost of the 7 day JR pass. It will get from Takamastu to Hiroshima, and to Kyoto.

http://www.japan-guide.com/e/e2361_kansai_hiroshima.html

You will also have a JR pass for the first few days in Kyoto, so use it to go to Nara, and possibly a day trip to Himeji.

For the final part, getting from Kyoto to Kanazawa, and finally to Takayama, you might think about getting the Takayama-Hukuriku Area Pass, which is also a five day pass. It covers the busses from Kanazawa to Takayama. I have not checked out how cost effective this is, compared to just purchasing a train ticket to Kanazawa, and then bus tickets to Takayama. My guess is that the individual tickets is probably better.

http://www.japan-guide.com/e/e2361_takayama_hokuriku.html

I hope this helps. Good Luck, in planning your trip.
by ebaychucky311 rate this post as useful

Re: jr pass west 2016/12/25 23:04
thanks so much.

I want to understand the significance of non-reserved.
What I need to do to be sure I boarded the train when I want?
what is the rush hour?
If i have the jrpass west , I can add money to save space?
Do I have to buy a ticket outside of Japan or can I decide during the trip?
what does it means 5 days?

thanks for help
by eg (guest) rate this post as useful

Re: jr pass 2016/12/25 23:25
Pass web mentioned...
https://www.westjr.co.jp/global/en/ticket/pass/kansai_hiroshima/

Availability and Use
¥ A rail pass is available and usable all year around.
¥ A rail pass is purchasable up to 1month in advance of the first day of use. * Currently, reservations can be made using online booking between 27 and 2 days in advance. Reservations cannot be made more than 27 days in advance.
¥ A rail pass is valid for consecutive days.
¥ The validity of a rail pass starts from 12 a.m.

Again.
Read Pass web again n again.
by iSA-nee (guest) rate this post as useful

Re: jr pass 2016/12/26 00:43
(A) Non-reserved is an un-assigned seat on a train. It does not mean that you will not have a seat, but you will board the un-reserved car, and find an open seat in it. In some cases, you may have to stand.

(B) I am not sure I understand your next question. I am going to assume your question in about a JR train. You will either buy a ticket, or use a pass to ride a train. If you plan to ride in a reserved car, you will use your JR Pass at a ticketing counter at the station to get a reserved ticket. The ticket, or the pass, will allow you to enter the JR area of the station, and make your way to the correct train platform. There will be departure signs at the platform that will show where the train is heading. About a minute or two before the departure time, the train will enter the station, and stop at the platform. You will then get on.

At some point after the train has departed, the conductor will enter the car, and check their list of people he/she has already checked, and go to the new passengers to check their tickets. You show your ticket, or your pass to the conductor. If you are in a reserved car, you will show your ticket and pass.

(C) I am not sure there is a "rush hour" on long distance trains. The first and last train of the day tend to be more crowded.

(D) I am not sure what a JR west pass is. I am also not sure what you mean by "save space". Do you mean a reserved seat? With a pass that covers unreserved seating, you will not have to pay the basic fare, but you will pay to upgrade to a reserved fee. I do not think that you will pay the difference between a reserved and non-reserved seat, but the full reserved seat surcharge.

(E) Many of the passes can be bought inside Japan.

(F) A five day pass is good for five calendar days. If you activate the pass at 2:00 PM, if will not expire at 2:00 PM five days later. You will just have ten hours of usage left on the first day of the pass.

I have had two times that I have really had a concern about having a seat on a train. One was the final Limited Express train from Kagoshima to Miyazaki, and another was a Shinkansen from Hiroshima to Osaka during Golden Week. This was on a trip where I purchased a Green (first class) JR Pass. On the trip form Kagoshima to Miyazaki, the first class car was full, and I have never been on a train where the first class car was full. My guess is that all reserved and un-reserved seats were sold, and people had to purchase first class seats to get home. On the trip during Golden week, there were still seats in first class, but I saw row upon row of high school students on the platform waiting to get on a train. You are not traveling during Golden Week , and should not have to worry about students on a field trip.

One of the reasons I get a first class (green) pass, is to ride the wide-view Limited Express trains in the first car, which is a first class car. On a wide view Limited Express, there is a glass panel between the first class seats and the Engineer's Compartment. You can see out the front of the train. My first experience with this was going from Okayama to Takayama on a Marine Liner.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_Liner

On the Marine Liner, here is a row or two of first class seats just behind the Engineer's compartment. There are U-Tube video's of the ride. If you do get a first class pass, try to reserve the right-most seat in the front row. I have heard that one of the most scenic train rides is from Nagoya to Takayama on the wide view Hida.

http://toretabi.com/train/central/train_02/index.html

If you are worried about getting reserved seats, then I would advise you to get the 7 day JR Pass, which allows you to get reserve seats. I would then think about going to Takayama from Kyoto, and doing Kanazawa from Takayama.

It depends on how much of a train buff you are.
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