COE

Hey all! I have been lurking here and following the discussion. I'm on the same boat with all of you who are waiting for the COEs. A small company in Tokyo submitted the documents already in April, then they e-mailed me in June that I should wait another month or so for the result. Two weeks ago I asked them if they got the result but there has been no answer...

Applied under Specialist in humanities/International Services, maybe that's why it's taking so long. Also it's the company's first time employing someone from overseas, and I'd be working in their daycare teaching English. I'm not native English speaker, but I have a master's degree in English and translation, so I understand that the immigration might have some major doubts in issuing the coe. I just hope that if I ever get the result it would be a positive one, couldn't they have denied the coe months earlier if they ruled me unfit for the job?

Thanks shinpai for finally joining the discussion!
I really hope that if the immigration keeps us waiting for several months then i really hope that it is a positive result.

Does anybody here heard a story where an applicant was asked to wait for more than 4 months then in the end he was just declined?

A4tech said his agency-mates applied last june and got declined this month, so they waited around 2-3 months.

I really feel that i have a thin chance for this since mine is also a small company. They had an international intern before but i think i will be the first foreign employee.

Murakami's comment about translating docs to Japanese i think has a big positive impact but its too much for us to tell our employers to translate the docs. Besides, our docs are already in the immigration.

Im really hoping that the coe will be released asap coz after coe, if ever, we still need to apply for japan visa and still, having coe does not guarantee having a working visa.

Lets keep this thread alive. Best of luck for all of us.

13 days to be 3 months of waiting

still no updates.. still waiting..

Is it true that releasing of COE result is scheduled every Wednesday and Thursday of the week?

When peoples reply here that they are also waiting since months.. I feel that I'm not alone and it gives me hope..
But we need Coe not hope it's taking too long.. Mine is 3 and half months now.. After 3 months according to Japanese law any official document is expired.. Now all papers we submitted from Japan side they should be valid.. Even our photographs..

Where are we standing .. Just hanging between yes or no
So cruel!

Kenyan

After 3 months according to Japanese law any official document is expired.. Now all papers we submitted from Japan side they should be valid.. Even our photographs..

Yes i think you are right----Thats why immigratin asked for our fresh marriage certificate,my wife salary slip,tax cetificate,my fresh birth certificate,and my fresh pic again---we submitt it last week after that there is no update----

hello..

if that is the case, why immigration is not asking us a new documents, its already 4 months processing..

omg..

A4Tech,

I Don,t know why they didnot ask from you for a fresh documents--but as i tell you before they ask from us a few documents which we submitt already----we are shocked when lawyer ask for my pic my wife tell him that we already give it to you when we fill up the forum but lawyer say we need a pic again and few more documents which i mention above-----don,t know since from nine days lawyer didnot say any thing more hope every thing will be fine-----if there is any update i will tell you

soontobetokyogirl,
the slow process of visa issuing occurs when the visa applicants or the guarantors (the company), or both do not match immigration's STANDARD requirements. most people get their visas smoothly.
before complaining against immigration, you should solve problems of your side.


A reply from another thread.

For my side, I know have submitted complete requirements and I even have it authenticated by our department of foreign affairs.

Any update, guys?

the slow process of visa issuing occurs when the visa applicants or the guarantors (the company), or both do not match immigration's STANDARD requirements. most people get their visas smoothly.
before complaining against immigration, you should solve problems of your side.

Honestly, "standard requirements" is not really a fair assessment. Most people probably do get their visas smoothly but that doesn't help the border cases like we see in this thread. But don't worry soontobetokyogirl, you seem to be doing everything right that is within your power to control.

What hasn't really been addressed yet in this thread is that two of the major factors in the application process are basically outside of your control, namely your nationality and your employers status. These are probably some of the things that cause the biggest slowdowns.

For example, people from the Philippines, parts of western Asia, much of Africa etc. will almost always have long application processes (measured in months).

Also, first time sponsors, especially if they are small companies, will take a long time to vette (almost always at least several months).

Plus add extra time for each time you had to submit more docs.

So looking back at soontobetokyogirl's info (and most regular posters on this thread), you could pretty much say from the beginning that your applications would be at least 3 months long, and likely longer. Sorry, you just have unlucky combinations of delaying factors. On the bright side, I think you probably have a good chance of approval if you haven't been outright denied already.

It was 3 months for me yesterday. I got a reply from the company today saying that they still haven't heard anything, and that immigration don't give any feedback while they're still evaluating a candidate. They had no idea how much longer it could take.

The company I'm with is small, but they've sponsored visa before, so I wouldn't think that immigration has to vet the company again. If anything I think my lack of degree might be what's complicating my case. I'm only qualified by the work experience I have - about 10 years by now - so I think that might put me outside normal procedure. They haven't requested any additional document to prove the full 10 years though, which is odd.

I'm from Sweden, so that shouldn't factor into immigration either.

yllwsmrf: Thank you for your contribution. Like you said, not being denied already is probably a good sign.

yllwsmrf:

thank you for uplifting our hope..

But 4 months waiting is still fine? thank you..

if you apply a small company, the smallness itself is a trouble-maker. generally, small companies are not familiar with the laws. they may have trouble to provide official documents. they may not be in good financial situation. the immigration requests the certificate of the company's income. if they don't pay tax, it may be a trouble to hire a foreigner. (no tax payment is no money to hire a foreigner.) immigration does not trust small companies. they may contact company's customers to confirm the presence of the company.

generally, Japanese choose a company as a working place by its largeness, not by a high salary. they know what will make a new trouble in future.

hello, I was wondering do you need COE to get spouse visa? I plan on moving to Japan soon with my wife(who is in Japan right now) and I dont have a college degree so I can't go on work visa.

heyletsgo,

Q:hello, I was wondering do you need COE to get spouse visa?

ANS:Affcourse if you are out side of Japan then you need Coe for spouse visa--

Q: I dont have a college degree so I can't go on work visa.
ANS: when i was coming from Japan i meet with a person in airport he belongs from afghanistan and he is not qualified but has long term visa bcoz company sponser him as a labour--and i don,t think that for a labour visa you need any degree from a college--but if you want to moveto Japan on work visa you need a company sponser which is not easy.

or you will go to Japan on tourist visa and change your visa status there that will be the easy way to get a spouse visa...
may i know from which country you belongs?

hello ken..

our sponsor company is one of the biggest in the city.. and some of my colleagues got their COE in just a month but ours is not yet released.. do u think there is a problem in our documents, we are 8 applicants with the same date of application and with same sponsor.

thank you..

"some of my colleagues got their COE in just a month but ours is not yet released."
the result tell you that there is some problem on your side.
don't you think ?

here, many posters say that they provide the full set of the documents. that is not sufficient. the contents of the documents should be good (or realistic).

Hi guys,

Today i call to the lawyer and i talk with him but i was shocked--Immigration need some addational documents and we forward it 2 weeks back to the lawyer i was thinking may be they will submitt that already in immigration but today i know that they didnot submitt it yet and this week they will submitt it--means my documents is with them from last 2 weeks and they didnot submitt it thats why y case take almost 5 months now and till now we are waiting---i was so angry on lawyer because he say to me sorry i am to busy i control on my self and request him to process the documents as soon as possible---is it fine that i talk ruder to the lawyer bcoz today i control on my self but its to painful bcoz our documents is with lawyer from last 2 weeks he didnot submitt it yet---if it happened in my country i will say alot to the lawyer but don,t know bout japanese lawyer is it fine that i say some thing on loud voice to the lawyer

@Malik saab
sorry for that, i dont know about japanese lawyers but which country is yours? you have right to complain because you gave job to him which he did not took seriously, i dont know japanese peoples are always serious, they mostly dont do this way, they work professionally.

but its really bad, i'm really sorry for that!

in my case ask the person who is following and in contact with lawyer, he said because of change in immigration law my case is taking long, it was Investor/business manager visa now its Business Manger visa, so they still have to decide which category should they put me.. otherwise no results yet.
so i get some hope also some stress that its not a proper answer also.. still hanging just for them to decide which category do i fall in...

i have sent an email to japanese immigration waiting for reply as well.. last month i emailed to a different lawyer and asked about my situation they replied, it might be the reason of problem in your application or it is because change in law and they still need time, it can take more time.

lets wait and hope for the best for all of us...
what could the worse then waiting!!

Hi every one,

as i told you people before that my documents is with lawyer for 2 weeks and they didnot submitt it in immigration--good news is that that they submitt it last week---bad news is that lawyer say to my wife to wait for 2 months more--april 3 they apply for my coe and its sept 5 now it mean 5 months and 2 days -and still lawyer say that we should wait for more 2 months---we submitt addational documents 3 times---last time lawyer submitt it on sept 2---so i should count it from sept 2 or count months from april 3-----what if they need more addational documents i will count it from zero----am confused