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How to travel from Hakone to Kobe 2008/8/12 18:24
Hi,

need advise here.

i will be travelling to Hakone for a day trip next month and from Hakone how to i go to Kobe for a night stay? Do i need to go back to Tokyo to go Kobe? Thanks
by First time f&e  

. 2008/8/13 09:58
Catch the Hakone Tozan Line from Hakone-Yumoto, and catch the Shinkansen Hikari to Shin-Osaka and change to another train.

Odawara 8:09 -- 10:30 Shin-Osaka 10:38--(Shinkansen Kodama)--10:53 Shin-Kobe

Odawara 10:09 -- 12:30 Shin-Osaka 12:38--(Kodama)--12:53 Shin-Kobe

12:09 -- 14:30 Shin-Osaka 14:39--(special rapid, not Shinkansen)--15:05 Sannomiya

14:09 --16:30 Shin-Osaka 16:38--(Kodama)16:53 Shin-Kobe

16:09 -- 18:30 Shin-Osaka 18:38--(Kodama)--18:53 Shin-Kobe

18:09 -- 20:30 Shin-Osaka 20:39--(special rapid)--21:06 Sannomiya
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Kobe 2008/8/13 10:18
Thanks optimistics

Can i purchase the Hikari Hayatoku Kippu tickets from Hakone to Kobe? The tickets have to be purchase 1 week in advance, so can i purchase the tickets from Kyoto?
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. 2008/8/13 10:54
No Hikari Hayatoku ticket available between Odawara and Shin-Kobe. You need to return to Yokohama to utilize it.

http://railway.jr-central.co.jp/tickets/topics/hayatoku/hika...
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kobe 2008/8/13 11:07
thanks for your great help.

Means it's easier for me to take the kodoma shinkansen from Odawara.

Can you also advise me if i will to leave Hakone by 1pm. What time should i depart from Shinjuku station so that i can complete Hakone in half a day, i plan to visit Owakudani, and curise around Lake Aishi and is it better for me to purchase the 2 days Hakone Free Pass?
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. 2008/8/13 11:37
--Means it's easier for me to take the kodoma shinkansen from Odawara.--

No, no, Kodama takes one hour longer than Hikari from Odawara to Shin-Osaka, and the price id all the same.

e.g. Odawara 16:37--(Kodama)--19:53 Shin-Osaka

--Can you also advise me if i will to leave Hakone by 1pm. What time should i depart from Shinjuku station so that i can complete Hakone in half a day, i plan to visit Owakudani, and curise around Lake Aishi and is it better for me to purchase the 2 days Hakone Free Pass?--

You need to catch the first Romance Car leaving Shinjuku at 7:00hrs and arriving at Hakone Yumoto at 8:39. The so called Hakone Loop takes 4 to 5 hours to complete.
http://www.odakyu.jp/english/rc/rc_timetable_a01.html

Hakone Free Pass:
http://www.odakyu.jp/english/freepass/hakone_01.html

You might purchase the 2-day Hakone Free Pass originating at Odawara for 3,900 yen.

If you are lucky, you can catch the 13:07 Kodama from Odawara.

Odawara 13:07--(Kodama)--14:30 Hamamatsu 14:36--(Hikari)--16:19 Shin-Kobe

The next one is the 14:09 Hikari listed above.

Hakone Loop images:
http://gutereise09.blogspot.com/2008/08/one-day-trip-to-hako...
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kobe 2008/8/13 13:39
hi,

Would that means i can't purchase the Hakone Free Pass from Shinjuku @ Yen 5000/ticket so that i can save some $$?

Base on your information i think it will be better for us to catch the Hikari train at 14:00 plus but what is the price for the Shinkansen ride from Odawara to Kobe (Sannomiya) and how many transfer would i need?

Sorry for so many questions, as this is my first time free and easy in Japan, thus really have blur on the railway operations.
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. 2008/8/13 14:23
--Would that means i can't purchase the Hakone Free Pass from Shinjuku @ Yen 5000/ticket so that i can save some $$?--

You could purchase the Hakone Pass originating at Shinjuku, but you are supposed to use only for one way (You are leaving for Kobe from Odawara,), and the base fare from Shinjuku to Odawara is 850 yen, so you'd lose 250 yen. (The pass from Odawara is 3,900 yen.)

--Base on your information i think it will be better for us to catch the Hikari train at 14:00 plus but what is the price for the Shinkansen ride from Odawara to Kobe (Sannomiya) and how many transfer would i need?--

Odawara 14:09--(Hikari)--16:30 Shin-Osaka 16:39--(special rapid)--17:06 Sannomiya

Price: 12,900 yen

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trains in Japan 2008/8/13 14:27
First time f&e: please look at transportations/ trains/ passes under A-Z right at the top of this site to familiarize yourself with trains in Japan. Check www.hyperdia.com or http://www.jorudan.co.jp/english
for trains schedules and fares. before using Hyperdia pls read help etc. to understand the symbols. You can also type any question you have in the small window right above the list of all the questions and get all the posts about similar questions.
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kobe 2008/8/13 23:37
Great. Thanks for your all help and information. :)
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