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about japanese names.. again
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2008/9/21 00:32
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hello, i would like to ask some tricky questions about names.
1)i have heard that exists a family name "shimaki" 島木, do you think that this can be used as a given name also? of course the kanji are different, but i know that shimako and maki are common female names.. so i think that shimaki doesn't sound particularly strange as a given name. i like this name because as far as i know, it indicates the lintel of a torii gate. well, kasagi 笠木 doesn't sound as nice as the former, isn't it ^_^'?
2) i know that some names given to objects have the suffix "-maru", and it seems that when it is used in people names, this suffix indicates a male gender. since many japanese swords and boats have names in "-maru" should i suppose that these objects are considered of male gender, or "maru" is only a form of affection that can be used for both male and female genders? In Europe, or at least in Italy (i'm Italian) , swords and boats are considered as female. so we give female names to them..
3)if the -maru suffix suggest a "male" object, maybe that the suffix -ko suggest that the object is "female"?
thank you very much!
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by mauro
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Shimako not so common
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2008/9/21 09:22
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Why do you think that Shimako is a common female name? I have been in Japan for 10 years and haven't come across it as a given name that I can remember. I do have a student called Shima, but her name stood out to me as being unusual, not common.
As for Shimaki as a name, it sounds a bit odd to me, more like an object than a person. A Japanese person's response is more important here of course, but making up names for a different language and culture from your own is probably not the best idea.
I have also not come across any men with "maru" in their names, only boats- can you give examples of people with "maru" as part of their name? Are you sure it suggests the object is male?
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by Sira
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1) "Shimaki" as a given name would be VERY strange. I have not heard of "Shimako" as first name either. Generally speaking, those names with geographical characterstics (such as "mountain," "river" "island" = Shima, "forest" etc.) and place names (such as "bridge") tend to be family names, not given names.
2) This "-maru" by now is only used for boats, I'd say. This being used in names were only in olden times (in old adventure stories and hero cartoons), and for male only.
3) "-ko" written with the kanji meaning "child" is a modern-day common ending for female names. You must be careful, though, because there are male names that apparently end with "-ko" sound but use different characters. And normally you would not use female names ending with "-ko" on OBJECTS.
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by AK
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well, maybe it's not so common (i'n not japanese so i can't be sure about the trend in japan today..), but shimako is used. shimako sato, shimako murai, shimako iwai, ..
-maru and maro maybe are not common today, but they were widely used in the past for males (as far as i know), like -ko for females.
thanks for your help.
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by mauro
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ops. i forgot..
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2008/9/21 17:22
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i forgot to say that names in -maru were common, but as Yômyô .. maybe for this reason is not so easy to find examples of them. a classic example of this is Minamoto no Yoshitsune 源義経 (1159-89) that was called Ushiwakamaru.
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by mauro
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The Japanese language does not have grammatical gender (unlike Italian), so there's no such concept that every object is categorized into either male or female.
Even if an object has a name whose suffix is common to a personal given name (e.g. -maru), it does not necessarily mean that the object is clearly considered either male or female.
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by meringue4
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